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Old 09-18-2023, 07:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Motoracing
I’ve flown abroad many, many years and the way American pilots are being seen worldwide in terms of appearance is the worst.

I’ve heard so many times, specially from European pilots: why are American pilots so lazy, obese, their uniform is always dirty, shirt always wrinkled, such a lack of good sense and self esteem?

It’s really embarrassing to answer those questions. Totally a shame.

And now, honestly, they say that a shaved face shows a “good professionalism”? Come on… just bizarre!

I have friends flying for Swiss Airlines who wear a beard and probably are the best “good looking pilots” in terms of dress code/uniform/weight… so are those pilots unprofessionals because of the beard they wear? Bull****. Period.

Furthermore, I’ve never seen flight decks so dirty like the ones we have in this country. It’s a shame for us. We gotta change our mindset. We definitely CAN be better.

And for God’s Sake, authorize the beard for pilots, let’s focus on what really matter. Obesity, a clean and good looking uniform, clean shirts and so on…


👆🏼👆🏼👆🏼 This, as a pilot who flew more than 10 years in other country and with a lot of friends in Airlines around the world, US pilots are in the lowest tier regarding presentation and “visual professionalism”. Funny how some people think a shaved face define professionalism and ignore the rest.
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Old 09-18-2023, 08:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Merequetengue
👆🏼👆🏼👆🏼 This, as a pilot who flew more than 10 years in other country and with a lot of friends in Airlines around the world, US pilots are in the lowest tier regarding presentation and “visual professionalism”. Funny how some people think a shaved face define professionalism and ignore the rest.
We also get paid twice as much, and pay half the taxes. I can afford lots of razor blades.
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Old 09-18-2023, 08:48 PM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
We also get paid twice as much, and pay half the taxes. I can afford lots of razor blades.
We get paid twice as much but we present ourselves like we get paid the least. At least we’re clean shaven. For whatever that matters.
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Old 09-18-2023, 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Thedude86
We get paid twice as much but we present ourselves like we get paid the least. At least we’re clean shaven. For whatever that matters.
I personally would be OK with better grooming, dress and even BMI standards.

But legally BMI is off limits, and I guess at that point the rest is just lipstick on a pig.
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Old 09-19-2023, 04:38 AM
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Originally Posted by SonicFlyer
What risk did they analyze?
I presume O2 mask (like the thread title suggests), even though there are several studies showing it's not a factor. B/L, I'd suspect it was an excuse because they don't want to allow them because, reasons...

The point is a peer airline (air line) said, "nope". Do with that information what you will.
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Old 09-19-2023, 06:39 AM
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Originally Posted by FangsF15
I presume O2 mask (like the thread title suggests), even though there are several studies showing it's not a factor. B/L, I'd suspect it was an excuse because they don't want to allow them because, reasons...
Yeah, the whole thing is BS... did the airline ever publish their "risk study"? LOL
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Old 09-19-2023, 07:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Motoracing
I’ve flown abroad many, many years and the way American pilots are being seen worldwide in terms of appearance is the worst.

I’ve heard so many times, specially from European pilots: why are American pilots so lazy, obese, their uniform is always dirty, shirt always wrinkled, such a lack of good sense and self esteem?

It’s really embarrassing to answer those questions. Totally a shame.

And now, honestly, they say that a shaved face shows a “good professionalism”? Come on… just bizarre!

I have friends flying for Swiss Airlines who wear a beard and probably are the best “good looking pilots” in terms of dress code/uniform/weight… so are those pilots unprofessionals because of the beard they wear? Bull****. Period.

Furthermore, I’ve never seen flight decks so dirty like the ones we have in this country. It’s a shame for us. We gotta change our mindset. We definitely CAN be better.

And for God’s Sake, authorize the beard for pilots, let’s focus on what really matter. Obesity, a clean and good looking uniform, clean shirts and so on…
Did you respond with why you guys crash so often?
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Old 09-19-2023, 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted by greatmovieistar
Did you respond with why you guys crash so often?
Give him a break, he was talking about professional appearance, not actual professionalism.
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Old 09-19-2023, 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Al Czervik
Any of you beard guys get that the company just doesn’t want to deal with any more BS?
tattoos, long hair, face piercings etc. beards are just the tip of the iceberg.
Can I come to work in my sweat pants and hoodie?
You can do it when Senators can.

Low hanging fruit.
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Old 09-20-2023, 06:53 AM
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Originally Posted by TransWorld
You can do it when Senators can.

Low hanging fruit.
I don't think congress-level confidence is exactly what the airlines are looking for in their public image...

https://news.gallup.com/poll/394283/...e-new-low.aspx
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