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Icaruss 01-18-2024 06:49 AM

Trip Pickup
 
Without litesabre, how do I pickup dropped trips? I keep getting invalid employee number.

CMA757 01-18-2024 07:10 AM


Originally Posted by Icaruss (Post 3754363)
Without litesabre, how do I pickup dropped trips? I keep getting invalid employee number.

Message other pilot and ask them to drop it to you. Very easy using APA TASC Sabre HISEQ.

Icaruss 01-18-2024 07:16 AM


Originally Posted by CMA757 (Post 3754381)
Message other pilot and ask them to drop it to you. Very easy using APA TASC Sabre HISEQ.

I tried that for next month, is giving me invalid employee number

Icaruss 01-18-2024 07:52 AM


Originally Posted by Icaruss (Post 3754390)
I tried that for next month, is giving me invalid employee number

How do you delete DFPs?

Airline Guy 01-18-2024 07:58 AM


Originally Posted by Icaruss (Post 3754435)
How do you delete DFPs?

look at compass guide it’s all there in detail.
for your trip pickup just use TTS, very easy.

Name User 01-18-2024 07:59 AM


Originally Posted by Icaruss (Post 3754435)
How do you delete DFPs?

DFP removal hosted at ImgBB — ImgBB (ibb.co)

If you are doing straight pickup TTS is used, that is what it was designed for.

CRJJ 01-18-2024 08:05 AM


Originally Posted by Icaruss (Post 3754390)
I tried that for next month, is giving me invalid employee number

Maybe he needs to HIY?

Beech Dude 01-18-2024 08:39 AM


Originally Posted by Icaruss (Post 3754390)
I tried that for next month, is giving me invalid employee number

You can't pickup open in SABRE anymore. TTOT function has been dead for awhile. See a trip posted for drop? Like above, call the pilot and do a P2P drop/trade.

Straight pickup? TTS...ya know, when RT is available, after the trip gets washed in the proverbial batch run, but not from the 13th to the 18th, 'cuz PBS, and after the 24th for the following month.

Everyone watch the TTS videos! HISEQ post is not a TTS post. Systems don't talk so you have to do both.

GrossNavError 01-18-2024 08:42 AM


Originally Posted by CMA757 (Post 3754381)
Message other pilot and ask them to drop it to you. Very easy using APA TASC Sabre HISEQ.

How do you message another pilot?

Beech Dude 01-18-2024 08:45 AM


Originally Posted by GrossNavError (Post 3754478)
How do you message another pilot?

Tap their employee # in SABRE and it'll show their contacts. Or you can input their name into member lookup in the APA app.

GrossNavError 01-18-2024 08:55 AM

This is all very retarded, how come it's so hard to just trade a trip at this place?

Name User 01-18-2024 09:10 AM

The instructional video on how to trade a trip is 2:29 ffs, it's extremely easy and quick.

players.brightcove.net/1386823087001/default_default/index.html?videoId=6284852521001

ClncClarence 01-18-2024 09:29 AM

So GrossNavError doesn’t understand taxes, can’t figure out how to watch a 3 minute video on TTS, and doesn’t know how to find another pilot’s contact info. However, he wants to pilot aircraft until 67 at an airline he hates. Brilliant!

Icaruss 01-18-2024 11:07 AM

Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't TTS only works with open time? One can argue "ballot" status can be maybe sort of a dropped trip, but it really isn't because is not known what is in the actual ballot.

Anyways, I just thought there was a way of picking up a dropped trip without having to contact the other pilot since he/she already dropped it. I guess that only worked with litesabre. But hey, everything that litesabre did can be done else, right...

Name User 01-18-2024 11:49 AM


Originally Posted by Icaruss (Post 3754600)
Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't TTS only works with open time? One can argue "ballot" status can be maybe sort of a dropped trip, but it really isn't because is not known what is in the actual ballot.

Anyways, I just thought there was a way of picking up a dropped trip without having to contact the other pilot since he/she already dropped it. I guess that only worked with litesabre. But hey, everything that litesabre did can be done else, right...

If the trip is dropped it’s in open time you and you use TTS to pick it up. See my video link.

Keep in mind if the trip just dropped, you need to add to ballot so it will run on the next cycle or you can wait and if no one else gets it then just pickup at they time.

8802 01-18-2024 11:58 AM

TTS works with Open Time, Balloted, and Posted Trips.

Any trip that is Posted is fair game for a straight pickup. Picking up a Balloted trip must comply with whatever the pilot who has the Balloted trip wants.

If you want to do a straight pickup in TTS, that trip must either already be in Open Time or Posted for drop. If a trip is open, but there is no shopping cart, that means the trip must first be washed through a TTS run.

Even though LiteSabre is dead, trips may still be posted through the HISEQ in DECS and can be picked up and traded independently of TTS with no restriction of open time limits.

thrust 01-18-2024 12:30 PM


Originally Posted by ClncClarence (Post 3754515)
So GrossNavError doesn’t understand taxes, can’t figure out how to watch a 3 minute video on TTS, and doesn’t know how to find another pilot’s contact info. However, he wants to pilot aircraft until 67 at an airline he hates. Brilliant!

There are tons of pilots like that at AA. Fortunately they’re disappearing en masse, age 67 only delays that a little.

Icaruss 01-18-2024 01:56 PM


Originally Posted by 8802 (Post 3754645)
TTS works with Open Time, Balloted, and Posted Trips.

Any trip that is Posted is fair game for a straight pickup. Picking up a Balloted trip must comply with whatever the pilot who has the Balloted trip wants.

If you want to do a straight pickup in TTS, that trip must either already be in Open Time or Posted for drop. If a trip is open, but there is no shopping cart, that means the trip must first be washed through a TTS run.

Even though LiteSabre is dead, trips may still be posted through the HISEQ in DECS and can be picked up and traded independently of TTS with no restriction of open time limits.

I understand all of that.

I guess my point is, with Litesabre if a pilot dropped a trip, I could on my end without notifying the dropping pilot pickup his/her trip automatically any time I wanted to. (Not needing to wait for TTS to run). Now seems to me, unless I'm wrong, the dropping pilot has to give it to me or I have to wait until TTS runs and do it that way. Am I missing something?

8802 01-18-2024 02:28 PM

In TTS, you can pick up any posted trip outside of a TTS run. Just click the shopping cart and pick it up. If it's not posted, but balloted, you need to put it in your ballot and let it run to see if it meets their ballot requirements.

If a trip is posted in DECS, go to the N4 in TASC sabre, find the trip, and go through the steps to pick it up, you can even run it in test mode just like you could in LS. If it is posted you don't need any action from the person dropping the trip.

The only thing we really lost with LS was Pilot to Pilot auto trade. There is no mechanisim in TASC Sabre / DECS to automate that process. That is where the authorization part comes from so you can't just screw with someone elses schedule. When something is posted for drop that is the authorization.

Icaruss 01-18-2024 02:35 PM


Originally Posted by 8802 (Post 3754737)
In TTS, you can pick up any posted trip outside of a TTS run. Just click the shopping cart and pick it up. If it's not posted, but balloted, you need to put it in your ballot and let it run to see if it meets their ballot requirements.

If a trip is posted in DECS, go to the N4 in TASC sabre, find the trip, and go through the steps to pick it up, you can even run it in test mode just like you could in LS. If it is posted you don't need any action from the person dropping the trip.

The only thing we really lost with LS was Pilot to Pilot auto trade. There is no mechanisim in TASC Sabre / DECS to automate that process. That is where the authorization part comes from so you can't just screw with someone elses schedule. When something is posted for drop that is the authorization.

Ahh got ya! Sorry, I've been doing reserve before real time TTS started. Do I have to wait until the 23 or 24 for the following month?, forgot the date.

Beech Dude 01-18-2024 03:12 PM


Originally Posted by Icaruss (Post 3754739)
Ahh got ya! Sorry, I've been doing reserve before real time TTS started. Do I have to wait until the 23 or 24 for the following month?, forgot the date.

First, when a pilot posts a trip in TTS it isn't eligible for pickup. It has to go through a batch run (0800&2000 HBT). It will then be RT eligible (shopping cart black).

23rd: TTS batch runs for trips in the following contractual month.
24th: RT begins for the following contractual month.

Icaruss 01-18-2024 03:26 PM


Originally Posted by Beech Dude (Post 3754761)
First, when a pilot posts a trip in TTS it isn't eligible for pickup. It has to go through a batch run (0800&2000 HBT). It will then be RT eligible (shopping cart black).

23rd: TTS batch runs for trips in the following contractual month.
24th: RT begins for the following contractual month.

This is exactly what I was missing. Thanks!

Easyflier301 01-18-2024 03:39 PM


Originally Posted by 8802 (Post 3754737)
In TTS, you can pick up any posted trip outside of a TTS run. Just click the shopping cart and pick it up. If it's not posted, but balloted, you need to put it in your ballot and let it run to see if it meets their ballot requirements.

If a trip is posted in DECS, go to the N4 in TASC sabre, find the trip, and go through the steps to pick it up, you can even run it in test mode just like you could in LS. If it is posted you don't need any action from the person dropping the trip.

The only thing we really lost with LS was Pilot to Pilot auto trade. There is no mechanisim in TASC Sabre / DECS to automate that process. That is where the authorization part comes from so you can't just screw with someone elses schedule. When something is posted for drop that is the authorization.

I don’t know of a way we can just pickup a posted trip via DECS anymore. Yes, the N4 says “to pick up this trip enter HT in your personal mode” or whatever but the Pilot to Pilot DECS guide we have loaded into our Comply only has instructions for how to drop to another pilot. I assume thats why some are saying on here you have to call the pilot and have them drop it to you. I believe what LS did was run the script from the dropping pilot’s side, thereby putting it on the receiving pilot’s schedule.

I’d love to be wrong and if anyone knows if DECS only pickup is possible for TT posted trips, please post here.

Beech Dude 01-18-2024 04:29 PM


Originally Posted by 8802 (Post 3754737)
In TTS, you can pick up any posted trip outside of a TTS run. Just click the shopping cart and pick it up. If it's not posted, but balloted, you need to put it in your ballot and let it run to see if it meets their ballot requirements.

If a trip is posted in DECS, go to the N4 in TASC sabre, find the trip, and go through the steps to pick it up, you can even run it in test mode just like you could in LS. If it is posted you don't need any action from the person dropping the trip.

The only thing we really lost with LS was Pilot to Pilot auto trade. There is no mechanisim in TASC Sabre / DECS to automate that process. That is where the authorization part comes from so you can't just screw with someone elses schedule. When something is posted for drop that is the authorization.

Only P2P trades work in SABRE. TTOT functions do not. Even if a trip is posted, you cant just pick it up. Mobile Sabre gives invalid employee number error. This was by design to force TTS. You have you contact the pilot to get them to trade it to you.

Pacman 01-18-2024 05:05 PM

HT/their emp#/your emp#

Enters trade mode (if they have it unlocked).

HTO/B/sequence#/date/position

picks up the trip but it hasn't worked for me yet, usually says the other pilot needs to choose a drop type- UNC/PVD

I guess this is all TTOT stuff so it's useless.


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