Originally Posted by ImSoSuss (Post 3823731)

huh? It has never changed. If commute is not a factor and you have a choice of course you go to United or Delta. Are you kidding me?

Originally Posted by CRJJ (Post 3823771)

I’ve never liked extremes, but another thing to consider is seniority progression. Wasn’t that our selling point over the other two?. I know the sky ain’t falling and everything is cyclical, but I’m sure 6-12 months of no classes while the other two have classes will equalize things quite a bit.
Still a great job/career? Absolutely. Living in base? Don’t look back, easy choice. But our management needs to put their sh*t together, yesterday.
At the same time I kinda appreciate if they’re being proactive with hiring freezes and letting retirements take care of the “issue”, rather than hire no matter what and then oh sorry gotta furlough.

Originally Posted by CRJJ (Post 3823771)

I’ve never liked extremes, but another thing to consider is seniority progression. Wasn’t that our selling point over the other two?. I know the sky ain’t falling and everything is cyclical, but I’m sure 6-12 months of no classes while the other two have classes will equalize things quite a bit.
Still a great job/career? Absolutely. Living in base? Don’t look back, easy choice. But our management needs to put their sh*t together, yesterday.
At the same time I kinda appreciate if they’re being proactive with hiring freezes and letting retirements take care of the “issue”, rather than hire no matter what and then oh sorry gotta furlough.

Originally Posted by ImSoSuss (Post 3823825)

pardon my french but our retirements mean **** If we stopped hiring and aren't growing. Deltas and more specifically Uniteds growth cancels our retirements (hint, other airlines have retirements too). But that's cute tho. Retirements. Lolol

Originally Posted by CRJJ (Post 3823839)

Don’t go back to being a D, we are saying the same dude. Believe or not we are agreeing on things, don’t ruin it :rolleyes:

Originally Posted by ImSoSuss (Post 3823844)

gotcha, all I saw was the "retirements " part . So sick of hearing about that while every other aspect of our operation is failing.

Originally Posted by CRJJ (Post 3823847)

I just have to agree, it is what it is. It’s more frustrating because of the potential we have, with our resources and size, I just don’t understand how much longer they think they can play this game, and the shareholders wtf. Other than paying off debt, what are we doing :confused:
TYS and ELP are our premium destinations :eek:

Originally Posted by Happy2behere (Post 3823675)

Thank you for the helpful information about Family Leave & 3XP to view PBS Awards. Really good to know about likelihood of dropping turns & Transcons. Move to in-base isn’t an option in order to have support from in-laws to care for elementary age kids so the tips on dropping trips is very helpful.

Originally Posted by Happy2behere (Post 3823152)

I'm a year 5 FO (Seniority ~10.5) coming off emergency leave of absence/mil leave/furlough later this year. I live <3 hours from BNA, LEX, SDF, TYS and appreciate help figuring out which base/iron is best to bid mid-week out of base trips. My goal would be to bid desirable trips and drop/sell most of them, maximizing trips that start/end in TN/KY or with any DH to stay on the clock longer during the commute. Priority is max sched control (recently widowed with school-age kids) vs destinations or comfort. I was A320 before my time away from the company and am sold on it's merits, but would trade comfort for better schedule control or more commutable options. Looks like senioirty would be 30% at CLT & 15% LGA. Thanks for helping me figure out best current method to be around for my kids on the weekends and have trips desirable enough other pilots will consistently take them off my hands.

Originally Posted by CRJJ (Post 3823847)

I just have to agree, it is what it is. It’s more frustrating because of the potential we have, with our resources and size, I just don’t understand how much longer they think they can play this game, and the shareholders wtf. Other than paying off debt, what are we doing :confused:
TYS and ELP are our premium destinations :eek:

Originally Posted by Happy2behere (Post 3823675)

Thank you for the helpful information about Family Leave & 3XP to view PBS Awards. Really good to know about likelihood of dropping turns & Transcons. Move to in-base isn’t an option in order to have support from in-laws to care for elementary age kids so the tips on dropping trips is very helpful.

Originally Posted by Brawndo (Post 3824108)

No personal experience, but while you're researching the 3XP and PBS awards, have a look at LGA 737 FO I.