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DogPit 09-23-2025 08:56 AM


Originally Posted by ImSoSuss (Post 3952517)
Gotcha, so you're full of **** once again. plus why are you so interested in my background stalker? lol, weird

3 others and myself gave you examples but I’m the one full of it. 🤣 Is that a Tim Waltz thing calling me weird?

Name User 09-23-2025 09:19 AM


Originally Posted by FlyyGuyy (Post 3952502)
If the super senior guys don't want it we will definitely never get it.

This is going to be very domicile and equipment specific.

For example I went through the ORD 737 bid packet it it's pretty similar to the UA trips. Now compare that to a place like CLT which has a ton of ex-regional type flying and the trips are built very different.

Ex, in ORD I noticed a junior lineholder got a 23+ hour 4-day that was a 1-2-2-1.

DogPit 09-23-2025 09:37 AM


Originally Posted by Name User (Post 3952532)
This is going to be very domicile and equipment specific.

For example I went through the ORD 737 bid packet it it's pretty similar to the UA trips. Now compare that to a place like CLT which has a ton of ex-regional type flying and the trips are built very different.

Ex, in ORD I noticed a junior lineholder got a 23+ hour 4-day that was a 1-2-2-1.

Impossible, those trips don’t exist…

ps2sunvalley 09-23-2025 12:23 PM


Originally Posted by Name User (Post 3952532)
This is going to be very domicile and equipment specific.

For example I went through the ORD 737 bid packet it it's pretty similar to the UA trips. Now compare that to a place like CLT which has a ton of ex-regional type flying and the trips are built very different.

Ex, in ORD I noticed a junior lineholder got a 23+ hour 4-day that was a 1-2-2-1.

No way. What is the sequence number?

Name User 09-23-2025 12:41 PM


Originally Posted by ps2sunvalley (Post 3952574)
No way. What is the sequence number?

I'm not sure, just go to the 3XP and put in ORD and start clicking around. I just chose random 3 and 4 day trips.

The difference in trip construction was huge, so much so that I half considered switching bases...

ImSoSuss 09-23-2025 01:16 PM


Originally Posted by DogPit (Post 3952525)
3 others and myself gave you examples but I’m the one full of it. 🤣 Is that a Tim Waltz thing calling me weird?

I already admitted they exist, try to keep up. Just that you didn't fly one. You seem to pop up every time somebody try's to give someone coming to AA a realistic expectation of what to expect then right on cue you come in with some disinformation "BuT i JuSt FlEw" making it look like that this is what they are all like at AA. One would think your line consists of 90 hours with 17 days off by the way you talk. You leave out the other important context, like what Tim Waltz does.

And yes, your obsession on my background is very weird and not normal. Get a hobby or something.

DogPit 09-23-2025 02:25 PM


Originally Posted by ImSoSuss (Post 3952591)
I already admitted they exist, try to keep up. Just that you didn't fly one. You seem to pop up every time somebody try's to give someone coming to AA a realistic expectation of what to expect then right on cue you come in with some disinformation "BuT i JuSt FlEw" making it look like that this is what they are all like at AA. One would think your line consists of 90 hours with 17 days off by the way you talk. You leave out the other important context, like what Tim Waltz does.

And yes, your obsession on my background is very weird and not normal. Get a hobby or something.

Lol, I have one leg left until I get home from it. Jealousy is a bad trait you know. On the other hand your approach is all doom and gloom and there isn’t a single positive thing about this place leaving out important context. It’s also completely unheard of when people tell others how they ended up here, I’m just trying to figure out where AA went wrong with you.

joepilot50 09-23-2025 02:28 PM

I had a 3 day last month that would have paid 21 hours with the midnight release pay, but 19 hours of hard time. An AF on a previous trip brought me over VMAX so I lost out on that 2 hours, but 19 hours for a 2 day isn't bad at all( scheduling needed to obviously mod my trip to bring me below VMAX). Heck that AF trip ended up being 21 hours as a 3 day not including the AF pay.

I am on a 22.23 4 day now and a 25 hour 4 day after this one.

Do I still get ACD trips? Sure, but I have had good success in either PBS awarding me a high time 2, 3, or 4 day trip or getting them through TTS. And I am bidding 75% in my bid status. I don't even bid for high time as I mostly bid for overnights that I want to do, but they happen to coincide with high time trips.

But I am on 737. Anecdotally the loudest people complaining about ACD trips and long days, etc etc are on the Bus side of the house, DFW 320 to be the loudest about sucky trip construction.

tallpilot 09-23-2025 02:36 PM


Originally Posted by DogPit (Post 3952534)
Impossible, those trips don’t exist…

Quality 4 days seem to pop into open time reasonably often. If you are looking for shorter trips then things get more difficult, at least on the Airbus side.

ACEssXfer 09-24-2025 06:04 AM


Originally Posted by joepilot50 (Post 3952615)
I had a 3 day last month that would have paid 21 hours with the midnight release pay, but 19 hours of hard time. An AF on a previous trip brought me over VMAX so I lost out on that 2 hours, but 19 hours for a 2 day isn't bad at all( scheduling needed to obviously mod my trip to bring me below VMAX). Heck that AF trip ended up being 21 hours as a 3 day not including the AF pay.

I am on a 22.23 4 day now and a 25 hour 4 day after this one.

Do I still get ACD trips? Sure, but I have had good success in either PBS awarding me a high time 2, 3, or 4 day trip or getting them through TTS. And I am bidding 75% in my bid status. I don't even bid for high time as I mostly bid for overnights that I want to do, but they happen to coincide with high time trips.

But I am on 737. Anecdotally the loudest people complaining about ACD trips and long days, etc etc are on the Bus side of the house, DFW 320 to be the loudest about sucky trip construction.

The PBS bid pack every month has the "daily average credit" for every bid status. Most NB statuses are usually between 5:20-5:30. For October there were 3 NB seats with a 5:15 DACV(all 3 737). So yes there are high time trips but on average we aren't doing much better than min ACD.


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