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8802 12-30-2025 12:40 PM

New "look what Delta has, and we don't" obsession unlocked.

ancman 12-30-2025 02:38 PM


Originally Posted by WiFly (Post 3986624)
Delta has problems because their operation isn't actually better than anyone else's, despite the lies they feed the public and their employees. They do things like beefing block time to make it appear better on normal days.

When **** hits the fan, they can't keep up.

Meanwhile American causes its own problems with things like unrealistic connections and underblocking the schedule. This block time increase and spreading out more banks will help solve the problems the airline has created for itself.

I just pulled up ATL to DFW flight schedules for a random weekday this week. AA and DL both operate the route 8 times daily. AA’s average scheduled block is 2:36. DL’s is 2:33.

I would agree with you about our management at DL offering more talk than substance though.

WiFly 12-30-2025 08:26 PM


Originally Posted by ancman (Post 3986868)
I just pulled up ATL to DFW flight schedules for a random weekday this week. AA and DL both operate the route 8 times daily. AA’s average scheduled block is 2:36. DL’s is 2:33.

I would agree with you about our management at DL offering more talk than substance though.

You can't pull up one route on one day like this and think it tells you anything. That comparison means nothing for several reasons:

(1) Gate positions, taxi out times, route selection, etc. all have impacts on average block time.

(2) When talking about thousands of daily flights, a sample size of 8 is irrelevant, you have to look at a multitude of routes to get a complete picture.

(3) The comparison isn't "AA block time versus DL block time", it's *actual* expected block time versus *scheduled* block time for each airline. In the comparison you gave, let's say Delta's actual average block time for ATL-DFW is 2:25 and American's actual average block is 2:35 for that same route (due to the factors I listed in point 1). Delta has 2:33 scheduled (they've buffered the scheduled time by 8 minutes), while American has 2:36 scheduled (they've only buffered the scheduled time by 1 minute). Obviously Delta's on-time performance on paper will be superior, because they've built in more time beyond the actual expected duration. What you'll see starting in April is American using the same technique to improve their on-time performance.

Not trying to be a jerk here, but pulling up a single route comparison like that is literally a waste of time.

ancman 12-31-2025 07:01 AM


Originally Posted by WiFly (Post 3986939)
You can't pull up one route on one day like this and think it tells you anything. That comparison means nothing for several reasons:

(1) Gate positions, taxi out times, route selection, etc. all have impacts on average block time.

(2) When talking about thousands of daily flights, a sample size of 8 is irrelevant, you have to look at a multitude of routes to get a complete picture.

(3) The comparison isn't "AA block time versus DL block time", it's *actual* expected block time versus *scheduled* block time for each airline. In the comparison you gave, let's say Delta's actual average block time for ATL-DFW is 2:25 and American's actual average block is 2:35 for that same route (due to the factors I listed in point 1). Delta has 2:33 scheduled (they've buffered the scheduled time by 8 minutes), while American has 2:36 scheduled (they've only buffered the scheduled time by 1 minute). Obviously Delta's on-time performance on paper will be superior, because they've built in more time beyond the actual expected duration. What you'll see starting in April is American using the same technique to improve their on-time performance.

Not trying to be a jerk here, but pulling up a single route comparison like that is literally a waste of time.

Do you have any data to support your claim that Delta consistently pads block times, relative to American?

I’m not saying that a sample size of 8 can prove otherwise, but it should be easy to support your claim if the issue is truly widespread.

Name User 12-31-2025 09:58 AM


Originally Posted by ancman (Post 3986989)
Do you have any data to support your claim that Delta consistently pads block times, relative to American?

I’m not saying that a sample size of 8 can prove otherwise, but it should be easy to support your claim if the issue is truly widespread.

Delta generally does the opposite - they have tighter block times but increased the time on the ground so that any moderate and under delays can be absorbed into the system. This still allows passengers to make connections and reduces crew costs due to lower block times.

Not sure about others but I hardly ever over-block here which means the company is overpaying on labor the vast majority of the time.

ImSoSuss 01-01-2026 09:15 AM


Originally Posted by 8802 (Post 3986841)
New "look what Delta has, and we don't" obsession unlocked.

Atlanta is a ****hole poorly ran crime ridden city where nobody wants to live. Dallas on the other-hand is one of the fastest growing cities in the nation. They can have Hotlanta lol.

Werjower 01-01-2026 09:21 AM


Originally Posted by ImSoSuss (Post 3987329)
Atlanta is a ****hole poorly ran crime ridden city where nobody wants to live. Dallas on the other-hand is one of the fastest growing cities in the nation. They can have Hotlanta lol.

But Delta had Atlanta based rapper Ludacris perform at their 100th anniversary bash. What Dallas based artist is AA going to hire for our 100th anniversary bash?

ImSoSuss 01-01-2026 09:30 AM


Originally Posted by Werjower (Post 3987333)
But Delta had Atlanta based rapper Ludacris perform at their 100th anniversary bash. What Dallas based artist is AA going to hire for our 100th anniversary bash?

Kelly Clarkson and Post Malone of course!

dsevo 01-01-2026 09:37 AM


Originally Posted by ImSoSuss (Post 3987343)
Kelly Clarkson and Post Malone of course!

And Lainey Wilson.

SkyGodKing 01-01-2026 09:42 AM

Willy Nelson
Is he still alive?


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