so what name will we fly under???
unAmerican
Yomerca
Untied-America
americaYo

all kidding aside... bobby Ice vision is definitely lacking the video posted in the line on American is an eye opener...fails after fails after fails change needed and fast....

just like we announced we’re gonna start flying to Caracas again. Trump will start strike a deal with Iran. In that deal the administration will announce American will start flying the 787 from DFW to Tehran.

I'm going with option D: None of the above.

This is just to make a UA-B6 merger seem reasonable in comparison.

100%, that was what popped into my mind first as well. Plus, Kirby never misses a chance to dunk on AA. You know Isom is crying in the corner right now.

Never thought I’d say this, but I miss Doug.

What a weird take on this. You always come up with some interesting conclusions.

Kirby lives in Southlake. He can see the crystal palace and hundreds of AA’s daily departures from his estate. Maybe he just wants to drive to work?

I called B6-NK merger a year or so before it was announced as well

A month ago you said the Iran conflict would be over in a few days and the straight open, meanwhile jet fuel is 2x what it was back then.

what makes you think its going to be good?

What does that have to with anything? 😂😂😂
Our CEO is crying in a corner? You miss Parker? Wtf???

No, I did not. Never spoke on any timeline of when I thought the Iran conflict would end.

The plan for the merger.

(1) AA declares chapter 11 to shed its debt.
(2) As AA is not an ALPA carrier, no seniority list merger guidance will apply.
(3) United keeps our new jets, retires their old jets, and furloughs the bottom (1/4th? 1/2?) of the seniority list.
(4) United is the surviving carrier.

First they staple us, then furlough us. Get it right.

Yes, I guess the staple would come before the furlough.

A lot of people are going to end up wishing they had signed those ALPA cards.

And a lot of young folks who had multiple CJOs are going to end up wishing they had chosen differently.

Oh APC. We AA pukes get a poll. 62% say its new jets announcement. Then some typical SK d!ck measuring chatter comes up and we end up with us getting stapled, half furloughed, and AA ceases to exist.

Happy Tuesday.

Re item (2): Google McCaskill-Bond Amendment

I’m going IFE’s or trading cards for the original discussion.

Uninformed spaghetti throw:

Tomorrow - NB seat back IFE and various XLR routes.
Later this year - WB order.
Long shot - West coast base / merger.

A220? A350?

More 738s?

Or...E195s...for mainline?

Buying NK?

OMG I hope we don’t buy NK. I would be so mad at myself for leaving NK.

I would love to take a crack at a 195E2.

@f9

I have seen many news articles about SK nothing from AA. which makes sense to me. SK has been throwing money around like a drunken sailor for the better part of five years and put everything on high end international travel. In the meantime AA has been focused on domestic and paying down debt. Kirby's problem is the new DHS guy wants to stop providing CBP services to Airports in Sanctuary Cities. Which puts UA in a Very Bad position. will it happen ? who knows ,but SK had a meeting with DJT. I doubt it was to hear this pitch more likely it was to understand what the fallout would look like and how to mitigate it. From the news stories It sounds to me like SK is running out of juice fast.

AA posted something on IG making me believe trading cards is the big announcement, lol

Glad they’re doing it after the union shelled out money for it.

I think SK met with Trump to gain an ORD advantage since the FAA has stated there are to many scheduled summer departures.

Kirby dunks on AA. Isom Dunks on APA

WB fleet is year round jacket.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DXH2A...ZpMDBpZjdqb21w

they just posted a clue on their Instagram page

We’re painting the bellies of all the 319s/320s silver in an attempt to hide the speed tape.

Yeah, I know that.. last summer in DFW 90% of the pilots were walking around with the blazer on. We don’t have that many WBs ;)

Yup, it’s trading cards. You can see them if you pause it

I wonder if American is going to put a QR code on the back of them to tell passengers why we pilots are overpaid and need longer duty days.

Lots of pilots with management aspirations there. They want to be seen as "team players" and don't want to risk being seen by someone important without their little blazer.

Complete opposite of what I saw.

no they don’t

and APA dunks on pilot group

My plan is to grab as many of those AA trading cards as possible when they come out, they will be valuable to some avgeeks when we merge with United and cease to exist.

were you in the D terminal?

nobody will ever get that retention bonus.

Indeed. Since we are APA and they are ALPA we only get Alleghany-Mohawk and are not protected by ALPA merger policy. The broader protections of McCaskill-Bond only apply if the same union represents both workgroups at the time of the merger.

”Internal Union Merger Policy. Where one union represented both employee groups affected by a transaction prior to a merger, the CAB held that a carrier's acceptance of an integrated seniority list produced pursuant to that union's internal merger policy satisfied the obligations under Section 3. The McCaskill-Bond statute explicitly provides that the union's internal policy applies in this circumstance. While several unions have internal merger policies, most of the litigation has involved ALPA Merger Policy. Under that policy, each Master Executive Council ("MEC") at its respective merging carriers typically chooses two or three merger representatives who are given total authority to negotiate seniority integration on behalf of their MEC, with the overall process subject to the supervision of ALPA's President and Executive Council. ALPA Administrative Manual § 45 (2009). Seniority integration agreements do not require ratification, but the integrated seniority list is generally part of a combined CBA, which does. To avoid having seniority list concerns artificially distort combined CBA negotiation and ratification, ALPA promotes in the application of its most recently revised Merger Policy the resolution of a combined CBA prior to the completion of the seniority list integration process (as was the case in the recent Delta-Northwest and Pinnacle-Mesaba and Colgan mergers and as ALPA is attempting to do with regard to the United-Continental merger). The MEC merger representatives must attempt to negotiate an agreement, but should they fail to do so, the ALPA merger provisions provide for mediation and for binding arbitration.The ALPA Merger Policy in particular differs from the Allegheny-Mohawk LPPs primarily in three ways. First, in an effort to more comprehensively protect pilot career interests…”

Should have signed those ALPA cards when you had the chance. Now you are hoping a BOD that would sell your mother down the river for another month or two of fringe benefits will do the right thing.

Oh, and another thing. When you are putting up a poll prognosticating on the future of the airline, always offer “Other” as a choice. Because 99% of the time, it will be the right choice.

“Big announcement” just dropped.

https://news.aa.com/news/news-detail...v7VRT4e8qqnr0Q

"How can we be more like Delta?"

"Well to start, we can focus on running a more reliable operation. Improve the customer experience."

"Customer experience? Are you ****ing stupid? Let's do trading cards!"