I agree with this, just wanted to make sure I wasn’t hurting my app.

 

This is one of the most distasteful things I’ve seen on here. I think it would be awesome to share a class with my son. And yeah, isn’t that the point? At least your son got it right? They should all do better than us or we failed as parents.

 

Super classy coming from a mod.

 

Surely, you weren't talking about me? There was a brief time after NK got their contract they were a viable career option. Lots of airline out there with parent/offspring crews. I welcome all kinds of experience. They have better stories to tell. Inbreeding from WOs is getting a little weird and dull.


Google: "mother daughter flight crew" and you will see quite of them celebrated. Why not father/son?

 

Just to provide some background, coming from someone who flew with both of these fine pilots at NK, the father had younger school aged children. He would bid red eye turns (out late night, back around 530am), head home and take his kids to school, sleep during the day, and then pick them up in the afternoon.

I'm not disparaging anyone because few know the full story, but a father making career sacrifices to be there for his kids is top notch in my book. I was fortunate enough to have a dad who did the same for me.

Bad luck? Absolutely but poor choices couldn't be further from the truth.

 

If you are coming from Spirit everything is better here. Well maybe not everything but my point is it’s good overall. Those that complain can’t abuse their contract anymore and get away with it so yea they are mad. You have to actually show up to work now, and no not everything will be a premium trip. The pay cut sucked but it’s not as bad as I thought it would be. If you go 737 you will probably hate it however the crews seem to be way more chill. The 320 is great but It will be frustrating watching CAs struggle with the bus who are new to it coming from a different type. 99% of the time they are humble and open to suggestions and will respect your experience. But that 1% of “I’m the Capt now” and i know more than an FO even if that FO has thousands of hours in type from the left seat, that’s the trip that will suck. Overall I would not worry this is a great place to be.

 

“ everything will be better here “ that made me chuckle.

 

Although I love your enthusiasm, as somebody who came from Spirit right after COVID I can tell you that in time you will realize that not everything is better here. Spirit's contract, other then pay, as a whole was much better. From schedule flexibility, to hard limits put on the company on what they can do to trip trading, open time, and reserves. Even hotels and transportation was better at Spirit as they had hard contract language and the Union had an equal say on everything. Heck, even my Regional before Spirit has some better contract items then here at AA.

I sent many sound-offs last contract cycle to try to get some changes here to improve on things mentioned above but they were all but ignored. That is the main (but not the only) reason I am fighting hard for ALPA and will be voting for the merger when the time comes. Actions have consequences with me and APA already made their bed with it.

However as great as all that was, no matter how good the contract is it means nothing if you don't have seniority progression or job security. That is what you have at AA right now. The pay is better too which will help make the loss of QOL coming to AA a little easier to swallow.

 

Honestly, anything is better than being unemployed.

 

I love working here, but anyone coming from Spirit shouldn't be under the illusion that AA offers anything near the QOL Spirit provided. On the upside, you'll make more money in the long run.