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Old 10-03-2011, 09:41 AM
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Are these 'analysts' the same ones that predicted $200 oil by the end of 2011?

I need to listen to them so I go broke faster.
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Old 10-03-2011, 09:42 AM
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Originally Posted by RiddleEagle18 View Post
market cap now only 600 million. Potential takeover target at this price?
Yes but will acquire the debt also. Although bankruptcy would restructure the debt. But debt none the less.

Bankruptcy is inevitable. Too bad.
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Old 10-03-2011, 09:49 AM
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only 1/8 return ratio so far. I think most will wait out the 3 years to see whats going on.
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Old 10-03-2011, 09:59 AM
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Let me tell you a little 401K story, friend purchased 50k shares of AMR at like 1.5 last time AMR was flirting with BK in 2003 ( I think) and the he sold at high 30's, Yeah do the math. Was told he had the highest 401k at NWA. I'm just saying the time to buy MAY be when the blood seems to be flowing.
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Extremely high volume and large price drop today. Down 30% in one day.

AMR: Summary for AMR Corporation Common Stock- Yahoo! Finance

Something is up behind the scenes. What, nobody knows....
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Old 10-03-2011, 10:11 AM
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As with us (DAL), eventually all of the threats by MGT and downgrades by the analysts become self-fulfilling prophecies. Sadly, an AMR BK will most likely spell the end of the pension. I think its a crime that the employees who've given their careers lose out while the lawyers and consultants who game this system enrichen themselves. Best of luck guys! I hope it doesn't get to this point for you.
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Old 10-03-2011, 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted by boog123 View Post
Let me tell you a little 401K story, friend purchased 50k shares of AMR at like 1.5 last time AMR was flirting with BK in 2003 ( I think) and the he sold at high 30's, Yeah do the math. Was told he had the highest 401k at NWA. I'm just saying the time to buy MAY be when the blood seems to be flowing.
Sure he did.
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Old 10-03-2011, 10:17 AM
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AMR shares decline as pilot retirements spike - MarketWatch



AMR Shares Decline As Pilot Retirements Spike


By Christopher Hinton, MarketWatch

WASHINGTON (MarketWatch) — Shares of American Airlines parent AMR Corp. plunged to record low Monday before a trading halt after reports of a sharp jump in pilot retirements since August amid anticipation of a potential bankruptcy.

In an emailed statement, AMR said bankruptcy was “not our goal or our preference.”

Shares of AMR AMR -23.76% fell as much as 33% to $1.75 each, trading below its 2003 trough, when a steep drop in demand led to a sharp contraction in revenue. The NYSE Arca Airline Index declined 6.5%, while the benchmark Standard & Poor’s 500 Index slumped 1.4%.

AMR’s stock was halted for a short time Monday afternoon before resuming trade.

“We are in a down market today, but the exceptional number of American pilots retiring is a sign that they want to protect their pensions and get out before a possible filing further [depresses] the stock price,” said Ray Neidl, an analyst with Maxim Group LLC.

“I still believe that AMR management wants to avoid filing,” he said.

In August, 111 AMR pilots retired, up sharply from the dozen monthly retirements typically seen. In September, 129 pilots retired.

“While more of our pilots than might normally be expected made the decision to retire in on October 1, we expect to operate our schedule with minimal customer inconvenience,” AMR said.

Last month the company said it would trim an additional 0.5% from its fourth-quarter capacity amid concerns of a slowing economy and traffic growth.

A spokesperson from the Allied Pilots Association, which represents AMR pilots, said that though it was possible the jump in pilot retirements was tied to concern over a possible AMR bankruptcy, the predominant factor is overall volatility in the stock market.

“A portion of their retirement plan is in a defined contribution, and that is not vulnerable to bankruptcy,” said APA spokesman Greg Overman. “The defined-benefit-plan portion is a bit different, and pilots have the option to take a lump sum or an annuity that is vulnerable to bankruptcy, [and] pilots overwhelming pick the lump sum.”

As of Sept. 1, some 500 pilots were over the age of 60 and eligible for retirement, and many had been looking for a reason to get out, said Overman. “Many of the pilots don’t want their fortunes tied to the fortunes of the airline,” he said.

The Ft. Worth, Texas–based carrier has long been considered a potential bankruptcy candidate by Wall Street because of its high cost structure. It was also one of the few major airlines not declare to bankruptcy in the wake of the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001.
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Originally Posted by DAL4EVER View Post
As with us (DAL), eventually all of the threats by MGT and downgrades by the analysts become self-fulfilling prophecies. Sadly, an AMR BK will most likely spell the end of the pension. I think its a crime that the employees who've given their careers lose out while the lawyers and consultants who game this system enrichen themselves. Best of luck guys! I hope it doesn't get to this point for you.
DAL, what happened to your stock price after the official Ch 11 filing occurred ? Did it bounce back up ?

Thoughts ?
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Originally Posted by boog123 View Post
Let me tell you a little 401K story, friend purchased 50k shares of AMR at like 1.5 last time AMR was flirting with BK in 2003 ( I think) and the he sold at high 30's, Yeah do the math. Was told he had the highest 401k at NWA. I'm just saying the time to buy MAY be when the blood seems to be flowing.
I started freeing up cash when I saw it tumble.... strongly thinking about getting in, but I think there's a little more to fall before it goes back up... look to about 1.25-1.30 before you hit bottom...
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