Originally Posted by eaglefly (Post 1193744)

....as a third option; DAL has a new TA with their pilots and is alluding to an aircraft order and UAL management now appears ready to match DAL's contract. One wonders if these two could combine as a bidder for AA ?

DAL would love MIA and DFW and the SA ops and UAL would be delighted with ORD, LAX and especially more NYC presence and they could make an even split of the International goodies.

If together they came to AA unions and offered them the same contract and no furlough protection and top dollar for the remainder of the creditors (UAL an airbus order/DAL a Boeing order), one wonders how that would be rebuffed ?

It could be a win for all parties. It would also leave U with no future merger partner and a destiny to survive as is, especially with it's pilot seniority conundrum and would be much weaker going forward. U could never catch the "big two" and would probably have to somehow reinvent itself or ultimately be broken up.

Originally Posted by eaglefly (Post 1193744)

....as a third option; DAL has a new TA with their pilots and is alluding to an aircraft order and UAL management now appears ready to match DAL's contract. One wonders if these two could combine as a bidder for AA ?

DAL would love MIA and DFW and the SA ops and UAL would be delighted with ORD, LAX and especially more NYC presence and they could make an even split of the International goodies.

If together they came to AA unions and offered them the same contract and no furlough protection and top dollar for the remainder of the creditors (UAL an airbus order/DAL a Boeing order), one wonders how that would be rebuffed ?

It could be a win for all parties. It would also leave U with no future merger partner and a destiny to survive as is, especially with it's pilot seniority conundrum and would be much weaker going forward. U could never catch the "big two" and would probably have to somehow reinvent itself or ultimately be broken up.

Originally Posted by Columbia (Post 1198953)

What I'm hearing is that dal only wants the MIA South America route authorities and aircraft only. Ymmv.

Originally Posted by B757200ER (Post 1193888)

What if US gets broken up, and the pieces go to AA/DL/UA? Then, Bond/McCaskill wouldn't apply...since less than 50% of the carrier would be acquired. Then, APA can just staple, furlough and discard like last time. That would make AA pilots happy, wouldn't it (at US pilots' expense)?

Originally Posted by satpak77 (Post 1199602)

With that in mind, why couldn't AA be broken up and the parts distributed ?

I mean, we are thinking outside the box here.....

Originally Posted by eaglefly (Post 1199632)

It's the place to be when your primary motivation is airing your grievances in perpetuity.

Originally Posted by eaglefly (Post 1199632)

Read his post again. He wasn't thinking outside the box, but once again standing on top of it. It's the place to be when your primary motivation is airing your grievances in perpetuity.

Originally Posted by satpak77 (Post 1199665)

Duly noted. However, why couldn't AA be broken up, if DAL and UAL comes into the picture ?

Take DFW, take the hubs, take the gear

Break it up and let LCC die on their own, unable to compete with the new monster on the block.

AA is the pink sheet, Ch.11 company, last time I checked. LCC is not. Who is the wounded animal subject to being victimized ?