AA TA - Industry Rate Comparables (DOS+36)
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I second that good luck....hate to say it, but if USAir is their best option, there is a lot more to worry about than a horrible contract. A contract has an expiration date, a marriage like that is forever....btw, not sure what time frame you were looking for but the DL 737-800 end rate (2015) I think is around $216...
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I second that good luck....hate to say it, but if USAir is their best option, there is a lot more to worry about than a horrible contract. A contract has an expiration date, a marriage like that is forever....btw, not sure what time frame you were looking for but the DL 737-800 end rate (2015) I think is around $216...
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I just ran some quick numbers, so correct me if errors are found.
12 - Year Captain (737-800 or A-320, whichever fleet number is greater)
Delta $210 (New contract)
Continental $150 (Current contract)
United $137 (Current contract)
America West $138 (Current contract)
US Airways $125 (Current contract)
Total = $760 / 5 = $152
American $174.46 (New contract) resets to $152 or a 13% paycut.
That paycut then is applied across all categories of hourly pay.
I would, however, assume that United and Continental will have a new contract that would diminish the paycut. With that said, even if United matches Delta 737-800 12-year Captain pay, it would still result in a small paycut across the board for AA.
12 - Year Captain (737-800 or A-320, whichever fleet number is greater)
Delta $210 (New contract)
Continental $150 (Current contract)
United $137 (Current contract)
America West $138 (Current contract)
US Airways $125 (Current contract)
Total = $760 / 5 = $152
American $174.46 (New contract) resets to $152 or a 13% paycut.
That paycut then is applied across all categories of hourly pay.
I would, however, assume that United and Continental will have a new contract that would diminish the paycut. With that said, even if United matches Delta 737-800 12-year Captain pay, it would still result in a small paycut across the board for AA.
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I just ran some quick numbers, so correct me if errors are found.
12 - Year Captain (737-800 or A-320, whichever fleet number is greater)
Delta $217 (New contract)
Continental $170 (Current contract)
United $137 (Current contract)
America West $144 (Current contract)
US Airways $125 (Current contract)
Total = $793 / 5 = $158 AVERAGE
American DOS + 36 months = $174.46 (New contract)
This average is still below where American will be at that time. Which, as I have discovered in this thread, will not trigger a paycut but it will result in a 2% payraise instead.
12 - Year Captain (737-800 or A-320, whichever fleet number is greater)
Delta $217 (New contract)
Continental $170 (Current contract)
United $137 (Current contract)
America West $144 (Current contract)
US Airways $125 (Current contract)
Total = $793 / 5 = $158 AVERAGE
American DOS + 36 months = $174.46 (New contract)
This average is still below where American will be at that time. Which, as I have discovered in this thread, will not trigger a paycut but it will result in a 2% payraise instead.
#19
Updated to show a possible scenario.
The more challenging part is the horrible band of the 319/737-700!!!
I think that is essentially AMR shoving a 3 year B-scale down your throat. I would hope that the "Industry Comparable Rate" would be the 320/737-800 rate like the rest of the comparable industry uses!
12 - Year Captain (737-800 or A-320, whichever fleet number is greater)
Delta $217 (New contract)
United $223 (a pattern up of 3% over DAL, hopefully more!)
America West $144 (Current contract)
US Airways $125 (Current contract)
Total = $ 709 / 4 = $177 AVERAGE
American DOS + 36 months = $174.46 (New contract)
Here's to hoping that UCAL can ladder up the industry before 2016! I have to be honest, I don't see LCC fixing their issues ever without a merger. Thanks for NOTHING USAPA!
Delta $217 (New contract)
United $223 (a pattern up of 3% over DAL, hopefully more!)
America West $144 (Current contract)
US Airways $125 (Current contract)
Total = $ 709 / 4 = $177 AVERAGE
American DOS + 36 months = $174.46 (New contract)
Here's to hoping that UCAL can ladder up the industry before 2016! I have to be honest, I don't see LCC fixing their issues ever without a merger. Thanks for NOTHING USAPA!
I think that is essentially AMR shoving a 3 year B-scale down your throat. I would hope that the "Industry Comparable Rate" would be the 320/737-800 rate like the rest of the comparable industry uses!
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