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09-14-2012, 01:06 PM
#91
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Originally Posted by flybywire44
Yes, but that is unrelated to the comments you made earlier which was actually what I was responding to.
What specifically do you think I should read in the MOU?
What specifically do you think I should read in the MOU?
09-14-2012, 02:43 PM
#92
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Originally Posted by cactiboss
The COC stays in place if amr buys us, it's that simple.
Originally Posted by flybywire44
These pay rates will keep AMR from buying LCC and why Doug Parker may have pulled the MOU to help block British Airways possible motion to make Tom Horton CEO.
*shrugs*
*shrugs*
Does COC bring APA pay scales up to COC rates? Would APA tolerate a lack of pay parity with USAPA pilots making substantially more than APA pilots? APA may negotiate the COC away in JCBA negotiations and redistribute these monies to all pilots universally.
I believe COC will never become a reality.
09-14-2012, 02:54 PM
#93
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Originally Posted by flybywire44
IMHO, I believe the COC will never be put into effect. The COC is called the poison pill for a reason. Everyone knows that it is a suicidal clause that provides excellent leverage in negotiations. Merged AMR would instantly become uncompetitive with DAL and UAL if this was put into place.
Does COC bring APA pay scales up to COC rates? Would APA tolerate a lack of pay parity with USAPA pilots making substantially more than APA pilots? APA may negotiate the COC away in JCBA negotiations and redistribute these monies to all pilots universally.
I believe COC will never become a reality.
Does COC bring APA pay scales up to COC rates? Would APA tolerate a lack of pay parity with USAPA pilots making substantially more than APA pilots? APA may negotiate the COC away in JCBA negotiations and redistribute these monies to all pilots universally.
I believe COC will never become a reality.
09-14-2012, 03:51 PM
#94
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Originally Posted by flybywire44
IMHO, I believe the COC will never be put into effect. The COC is called the poison pill for a reason. Everyone knows that it is a suicidal clause that provides excellent leverage in negotiations. Merged AMR would instantly become uncompetitive with DAL and UAL if this was put into place.
Does COC bring APA pay scales up to COC rates? Would APA tolerate a lack of pay parity with USAPA pilots making substantially more than APA pilots? APA may negotiate the COC away in JCBA negotiations and redistribute these monies to all pilots universally.
I believe COC will never become a reality.
Does COC bring APA pay scales up to COC rates? Would APA tolerate a lack of pay parity with USAPA pilots making substantially more than APA pilots? APA may negotiate the COC away in JCBA negotiations and redistribute these monies to all pilots universally.
I believe COC will never become a reality.
09-14-2012, 04:06 PM
#95
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The COC is good for all pilots as a tool. The West should be brought up to parity on a COC, that would only be fair. Life is never fair though, you only get what you negotiate. It sounds like APA is going to negotiate with their parking brake and log book.
09-14-2012, 08:04 PM
#96
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Originally Posted by cactiboss
Captain obvious.
I only present you with questions and ideas.
Originally Posted by Flyby1206
But US is the one most desperate to merge with AA. AA wants to exit BK as a standalone. So...no merger, no COC, no problem?
Yes, AA leadership advertises to be anti-merger. AA UCC and Labor seem to remain open to all options. The current COC seems to be an obstacle to likely progress.
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