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cactiboss 01-05-2013 04:06 PM


Originally Posted by LittleBoyBlew (Post 1324401)
Speculating now....But perhaps the AOL guys were told to play nice, or find another playground?? The NDA will lift soon, and the FACTS shall surface..

I would think seniority wouldn't be addressed in this MOU/ta besides saying it will follow MB protocols but only after jcba. This is the only logical way to go. The problem here is the east and usapa attempt at harming the west, by pushing the issue down the road it ensures usapa is gone and with it the "problem"

LittleBoyBlew 01-05-2013 04:11 PM

The TA/Nic can be NEGOTIATED modified jointly by the Co./Union. This NEW TA supersedes the previous one. Therefore a NEW process has taken place..

LittleBoyBlew 01-05-2013 04:14 PM


Originally Posted by cactiboss (Post 1324405)
I would think seniority wouldn't be addressed in this MOU/ta besides saying it will follow MB protocols but only after jcba. This is the only logical way to go. The problem here is the east and usapa attempt at harming the west, by pushing the issue down the road it ensures usapa is gone and with it the "problem"

You may be correct. However, following MB protocols seems to imply a NEW process...

cactiboss 01-05-2013 04:16 PM


Originally Posted by LittleBoyBlew (Post 1324408)
The TA/Nic can be NEGOTIATED modified jointly by the Co./Union.

Well the nic can be modified by the company and usapa bargaining for a new list. Now does this not imply that the nic. Is currently the list in our contract?

This NEW TA supersedes the previous one. Therefore a NEW process has taken place..
That can only be true if the new ta specifically replaces the nic. I very much doubt that.

cactiboss 01-05-2013 04:17 PM


Originally Posted by LittleBoyBlew (Post 1324411)
You may be correct. However, following MB protocols seems to imply a NEW process...

Right, do you remember who forced us to become a single pilot group?

Wiskey Driver 01-05-2013 04:22 PM


Originally Posted by LittleBoyBlew (Post 1324382)
False accusations without proof AKA " Defamation of character/ Slander" can carry a hefty price..Look in to it before you go over the cliff...

Please point to what is false if you can.

Usapa has NOT handled west grievances
Usapa DID overturn a valid election to get the result they wanted when they lost.
Usapa DID negotiate a deal that kept them from paying the DL while west had to pay!

So if you got a suit I suggest you try your absolute best to make it, I would LOVE to be sued by usapa as my counter suit would secure my future. Go ahead make my day.

WD at AWA

LittleBoyBlew 01-05-2013 04:31 PM


Originally Posted by Wiskey Driver (Post 1324418)
Please point to what is false if you can.

Usapa has NOT handled west grievances
Usapa DID overturn a valid election to get the result they wanted when they lost.
Usapa DID negotiate a deal that kept them from paying the DL while west had to pay!

So if you got a suit I suggest you try your absolute best to make it, I would LOVE to be sued by usapa as my counter suit would secure my future. Go ahead make my day.

WD at AWA

My advise to YOU is free of charge. However, legal council may cost you a mint!! Claiming fraudulent activities by YOUR union is a serious charge..Don't pick a fight that you might regret..

stamps 01-05-2013 04:37 PM

We are all dumber for having read this exchange. I award you no points. May god have mercy on your soul

cactiboss 01-05-2013 04:42 PM


Originally Posted by stamps (Post 1324427)
We are all dumber for having read this exchange. I award you no points. May god have mercy on your soul

It's like a wreck, u can't help but look.

Wiskey Driver 01-05-2013 04:43 PM


Originally Posted by cactiboss (Post 1324402)
Because the TA requires a single contract to use the list.

From Silver

Littleboy is completely clueless. He thinks that usapa and the company can enter into an agreement that disadvantages the smaller group and that is what the court said. This child lives in a world where his expectations have been managed so well that he actually believes what he writes.

The company knows its the quickest route to being sued and its evident in the companies letter to the NMB. I say let him continue along the path of delusion and when reality hits him it will be like being hit with a 2x4 across his crown.

WD at AWA


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