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QuagmireGiggity 02-13-2013 03:51 PM

How many pilots are in LAX?
 
Just trying to get an idea how big the base is.. thanks.

Minimums 02-13-2013 04:09 PM

Would anyone mind sharing an estimated number of pilots in each domicile aswell?

Sliceback 02-13-2013 06:16 PM

Bos - 200
dca - 200
dfw - 1800
lax - 800
lga - 1200
mia - 1500
ord - 1000
stl - 600

cactusmike 02-13-2013 10:10 PM

PHX has 1450 active

cactusmike 02-13-2013 10:11 PM

I assume LGA also covers JFK?

VenetianFryCook 02-14-2013 03:52 AM

In the remaining US domiciles ...

CLT - 1377
PHL - 1193
DCA - 245

aa73 02-14-2013 04:15 AM


Originally Posted by cactusmike (Post 1352242)
I assume LGA also covers JFK?

LGA, JFK, and EWR.

QuagmireGiggity 02-16-2013 07:28 AM

Looks like the DCA base will more than double. I hope they keep that around. I talked to one AA pilot that told me they used to have 800 pilots and at the time was down to around 300. Same amount of flying just other bases doing it.

Do most DC trips start at DCA? or a fairly healthy mix of IAD & BWI.

cactiboss 02-16-2013 08:36 AM

I would imagine ord and Dfw bases will grow and all others shrink. PBS simulations show that crews based there would be most efficient for the airline (middle of country)

TQ Nola 02-16-2013 08:55 AM

I don't see MIA shrinking at all. AFAIK, it's the only domicile that's grown over the last 10 years. South America has been a reliable cash cow for AA for many years now.

Growth solely at DFW and ORD makes sense only if you are basically a domestic airline, which AA is not.

cactiboss 02-16-2013 09:16 AM


Originally Posted by TQ Nola (Post 1353951)
I don't see MIA shrinking at all. AFAIK, it's the only domicile that's grown over the last 10 years. South America has been a reliable cash cow for AA for many years now.

Growth solely at DFW and ORD makes sense only if you are basically a domestic airline, which AA is not.

I'm not talking about flying but where pilots are based. A hubs flying might not get reduced but the pilots based there will.

TQ Nola 02-16-2013 09:49 AM

Right. I'm saying you're wrong. We'll see.

QuagmireGiggity 02-16-2013 10:08 AM

Miami is growing and will continue to grow. It's a major hub.

Sliceback 02-16-2013 10:26 AM


Originally Posted by QuagmireGiggity (Post 1353888)
Looks like the DCA base will more than double. I hope they keep that around. I talked to one AA pilot that told me they used to have 800 pilots and at the time was down to around 300. Same amount of flying just other bases doing it.

Do most DC trips start at DCA? or a fairly healthy mix of IAD & BWI.


67% of all statistics are made up. The other 50% are lies.

DCA peaked at about 575 20 yrs ago. Hasn't been above 500(+/-) in 18 yrs.

Same amount of flying? Maybe, maybe not. Doubt they researched the answer. RDU's gone, SJU's gone, BWI-ORD's gone.

ForeverFO 02-17-2013 04:54 AM

The volume of traffic in Central America, South America, and the Caribbean, is high, and the profit margins on those flights are also high. Miami's range to these destinations makes it ideal. We tend to think of South America as being below North America, but it is offset strongly East, and flights deep South benefit greatly from a Miami launch.

I just wish the MIA airport was better laid out. Connecting there sucks badly.

R57 relay 02-17-2013 05:22 AM


Originally Posted by TQ Nola (Post 1353983)
Right. I'm saying you're wrong. We'll see.

Cacti might be looking at it from a smaller airline, domestic routes. I think the high percentage of long haul, international flying that AA does may make the base realignment, AA bases anyway, a little harder. Why base a crew that is going to fly a long haul flight from MIA somewhere else?

cactiboss 02-17-2013 08:09 AM


Originally Posted by R57 relay (Post 1354536)
Cacti might be looking at it from a smaller airline, domestic routes. I think the high percentage of long haul, international flying that AA does may make the base realignment, AA bases anyway, a little harder. Why base a crew that is going to fly a long haul flight from MIA somewhere else?

I was just talking about what the PBS simulations that were done by the SME"s showed. Of course, without knowing how the flying will shake out we can't be sure.

slammer1906 02-26-2013 06:56 AM


Originally Posted by ForeverFO (Post 1354514)
The volume of traffic in Central America, South America, and the Caribbean, is high, and the profit margins on those flights are also high. Miami's range to these destinations makes it ideal. We tend to think of South America as being below North America, but it is offset strongly East, and flights deep South benefit greatly from a Miami launch.

I just wish the MIA airport was better laid out. Connecting there sucks badly.


Any guess as to MIA seeing the big and little bus?

Sliceback 02-26-2013 11:16 AM

Big bus? As in the 330 or 321?

MIA supposedly was going to be the second Airbus base at AA. DFW first base, no news on which bases next or when that will happen.

slammer1906 02-26-2013 01:16 PM


Originally Posted by Sliceback (Post 1360697)
Big bus? As in the 330 or 321?

MIA supposedly was going to be the second Airbus base at AA. DFW first base, no news on which bases next or when that will happen.

Whichever really. I guess the 321 makes sense for South America. Trans-con for sure.

CanoePilot 02-26-2013 01:52 PM


Originally Posted by Sliceback (Post 1360697)
Big bus? As in the 330 or 321?

MIA supposedly was going to be the second Airbus base at AA. DFW first base, no news on which bases next or when that will happen.

I bet ORD.

Sliceback 02-27-2013 06:00 AM

US has the 330's. IMO it will be a long time, if ever, before AA pilots are flying 330's out of MIA.

Early deliveries are mostly 319's. Eventually the majority will be 321's.

Who, what, when, where, why, etc, etc as far as MIA, 319 vs. 321, cities flown, is unknown right now.

Sliceback 02-27-2013 06:03 AM


Originally Posted by CanoePilot (Post 1360823)
I bet ORD.


I'd bet ORD is behind MIA and LGA. High altitude/thin city pairs in S. America and transcons is my reasoning.

shfo 03-01-2013 07:06 AM


Originally Posted by Sliceback (Post 1361141)
Who, what, when, where, why, etc, etc as far as MIA, 319 vs. 321, cities flown, is unknown right now.

I thought the first 321s were supposed to replace the 767-200 on the JFK-SFO,LAX flights. I have heard the same regarding MIA and DFW being the first bus bases. It just doesn't make sense if the planes they are replacing are only flying out of LAX, SFO, and JFK.

adam28 03-01-2013 08:55 AM

The first airbus deliveries are the 319 and believe they are going to DFW and MIA. The 321s come towards the end of this year and are suppose to replace the 767-200s on the transcons.

aa73 03-01-2013 10:33 AM

First 319s in DFW only, first flights in Aug. No MIA yet. First 321s in Nov to JFK.

Sliceback 03-01-2013 05:19 PM


Originally Posted by aa73 (Post 1362864)
First 319s in DFW only, first flights in Aug. No MIA yet. First 321s in Nov to JFK.

A320 Q&A says DFW then MIA.

AApilots home page says DFW domestic in August, international in November or December.

First A321 delivery is November. Two by end of December. No word if 321T's or regular 321's.

Don't recall any official word on when JFK bid status, or transcons, start.

aa73 03-02-2013 06:26 AM

Slice, I was told the 321s would be first used strictly on transcons, hence my JFK comment - although I guess they could go to LAX too. But I was told JFK.

gringo 03-02-2013 07:52 AM


Originally Posted by ForeverFO (Post 1354514)
I just wish the MIA airport was better laid out. Connecting there sucks badly.

True... but the lack of layout planning is MORE than adequately made up for with the oh so pleasant scenery to watch walk hither and yon...

:D

slammer1906 03-02-2013 08:41 AM

Is there much 767-200 flying in MIA that will be replaced by the 321?

Sliceback 03-02-2013 03:59 PM


Originally Posted by aa73 (Post 1363413)
Slice, I was told the 321s would be first used strictly on transcons, hence my JFK comment - although I guess they could go to LAX too. But I was told JFK.


Could be DFW based crews flying the transcons since so far there's no word of JFK starting in November.

We'll know before the year is out. ;)

Sliceback 03-02-2013 04:03 PM


Originally Posted by slammer1906 (Post 1363581)
Is there much 767-200 flying in MIA that will be replaced by the 321?


767-200? JFK-LAX and SFO.

MIA-LAX service is 767-300's, 757's, and a daily(?) 777.


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