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Old 06-05-2013, 05:09 AM
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From the latest update it sounds like APA is leaning towards using our jumpseat system here at US Air where we can reserve the jumpseat 7 days in advance and not get bumped for weight and balance. The concern is that many AA pilots would prefer the traditional seniority-based system. I love our jumpseat policy here at US Air, not just because I'm junior, but because it takes all the drama out of commuting. I'm sure the senior commuters at AA are not wasting time on this message board, but do any of you guys really prefer the current AA jumpseat policy?
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Old 06-05-2013, 06:16 AM
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No, we need the US system, as well as your reserve system. Of course, if it came down to a vote, and you are a 63 yr old AA commuter with a 2-digit seniority number, you're going to go with the AA system.

It sure would be nice if we could cherry pick certain work rules and policies between the two carriers.
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What is AA's policy, most senior goes first until the door closes?
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What is AA's policy, most senior goes first until the door closes?
Yes R57, but I don't know the nuances of their system.

Commuters benefit tremendously from the assurance of having the ability to reserve a weight and balance immune jump seat reserved 7 days in advance—this is a huge stress reducer.

Two jumpseats aside, most US Airways pilots seem to exercise a strong jumpseat etiquette... ie:
  • "is your need to jumpseat this flight more than mine?"
  • "I don't have to make this flight and you just finished a red-eye. Go ahead and take the jumpseat and if a seat opens in the back I'll see you down there."

Good call APA.
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Yes R57, but I don't know the nuances of their system.

Commuters benefit tremendously from the assurance of having the ability to reserve a weight and balance immune jump seat reserved 7 days in advance—this is a huge stress reducer.

Two jumpseats aside, most US Airways pilots seem to exercise a strong jumpseat etiquette... ie:
  • "is your need to jumpseat this flight more than mine?"
  • "I don't have to make this flight and you just finished a red-eye. Go ahead and take the jumpseat and if a seat opens in the back I'll see you down there."

Good call APA.
I'm not a commuter so I don't keep up with offline procedures. Haven't ridden another airlines js since Eastern.

Even when pass riding I like our system. Nice knowing you have it reserved if you really need to get somewhere. Hope we keep it and guys need to knock off the multiple listing crap.

I like our pass system too, but have a feeling it will go to AA's.
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Originally Posted by R57 relay View Post
What is AA's policy, most senior goes first until the door closes?
Pretty much. Any AA pilot trumps any Eagle pilot regardless of seniority on AA metal, and any Eagle pilot trumps any OAL, even if s/he were to show up last minute.

Otherwise, within your respective carrier (AA or AE), it's always straight seniority. You can show up last minute and trump
a junior (or AE) pilot. Same is true on an Eagle flight -- any AE pilot trumps an AA pilot, regardless of seniority.
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Old 06-05-2013, 07:57 AM
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It sure would be nice if we could cherry pick certain work rules and policies between the two carriers.
^ Would be awesome.

I really hope we keep the current book US system. It's so easy and so much less stress knowing you'll get to work a week out.
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Originally Posted by Pacman View Post
From the latest update it sounds like APA is leaning towards using our jumpseat system here at US Air where we can reserve the jumpseat 7 days in advance and not get bumped for weight and balance. The concern is that many AA pilots would prefer the traditional seniority-based system. I love our jumpseat policy here at US Air, not just because I'm junior, but because it takes all the drama out of commuting. I'm sure the senior commuters at AA are not wasting time on this message board, but do any of you guys really prefer the current AA jumpseat policy?
It's funny they want seniority based system for the Jump seat but first come first serve works fine for passes at american.
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I'm for the USAir system.
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Old 06-05-2013, 08:07 AM
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Originally Posted by FlugzeugVW View Post
^ Would be awesome.

I really hope we keep the current book US system. It's so easy and so much less stress knowing you'll get to work a week out.
Yeah, but being one of the "young" guys its easy to book at midnight a week out, because I am already awake. By midnight, the poor senior geezers are four or five hours into REM sleep. But I'm still unable to see a downside.
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