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satpak77 08-28-2013 07:53 PM

wheres the love............dang it

atooraya 08-28-2013 09:30 PM


Originally Posted by Adlerdriver (Post 1472347)
Does the average AA pilot want this to happen? Seems like trying to join the east/west fiasco already under way would just be asking for years of pain and suffering. Just asking.

oh yeah, ..... vitamin water?:confused:

Yea man, it's full of VITAMINS!

Hacker15e 08-29-2013 03:19 AM

Cramer said that on a show about investing in the market, relating to if he thought it was a good time to invest in airline stock.

It was an offhand remark...not exactly any type of thorough analysis of all the facets of the situation.

Bucking Bar 08-29-2013 05:13 AM


Originally Posted by bassslayer (Post 1472360)
So does cracking another beer

Depends ... "in the fetal position with drool on our chin... "



By the time we get to the third verse we're usually laughing too hard to not screw it up.

Adlerdriver 08-29-2013 05:51 AM


Originally Posted by atooraya (Post 1472521)
Yea man, it's full of VITAMINS!

So it seems. I guess I'm out of touch with the latest "Gucci" drink. I thought it might be another euphemism for some kind of adult beverage. I prefer water is when it's frozen and surrounded by bourbon. :D

ForeverFO 08-29-2013 06:59 AM

The equity stake is at stake.

Not that that is the driving factor, but it's a little bit of our money that we've given up; it'd be nice to get some of it back. We've lost our retirement into the pockets of Horton and his cigar buddies, our scheduling sucks, our product is dated, there's no vision whatsoever at upper management level.

The last CEO with any sort of acumen was Crandall. Since then, it's been one buffoon after another, whose "vision" for AA was simply "Cut labor costs."

Yes, every AA guy I've flown with wants this.

121PyLut 08-29-2013 07:56 AM


Originally Posted by ForeverFO (Post 1472653)
The equity stake is at stake.

Not that that is the driving factor, but it's a little bit of our money that we've given up; it'd be nice to get some of it back. We've lost our retirement into the pockets of Horton and his cigar buddies, our scheduling sucks, our product is dated, there's no vision whatsoever at upper management level.

The last CEO with any sort of acumen was Crandall. Since then, it's been one buffoon after another, whose "vision" for AA was simply "Cut labor costs."

Yes, every AA guy I've flown with wants this.

Just curious, what happens if it doesn't go through?

tsquare 08-29-2013 08:15 AM


Originally Posted by atooraya (Post 1472521)
Yea man, it's full of VITAMINS!

So is a healthy diet.

Vitamin water.... lulz. The American public is so gullible.

Sliceback 08-29-2013 08:56 AM


Originally Posted by EMBFlyer (Post 1472385)
All of the AA pilots I've talked to (albeit the number is very low) want it to go through. They want to get rid of their management. I believe there was a very small, extremely senior contingent that was opposing it, but I haven't heard anything from them in months.

Every AA pilot you've talked with wants the deal, but you've heard from an extremely senior group that's against it? It can't be both.


I've heard one guy, out of dozens or hundreds, mention that he's against the deal. Overall he's a mid pack to junior 767 CA.

Osprey 08-29-2013 09:02 AM


Originally Posted by 121PyLut (Post 1472690)
Just curious, what happens if it doesn't go through?

IMO, DP is then recruited to run the new AA. He brings in his management team and he uses the BK labor concessions and the new aircraft to grow AA rapidly to better compete with Delta and U.

I base this on two precepts, The first being he as gotton AA labor behind him. The creditors know without labor on board AA cannot succeed. The second being that DP seems to WANT to run a big airline.


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