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Gallifrey 08-30-2013 10:04 AM

But Cacti, shouldn't your contract be significantly better since you're comparing the west contract to a bankruptcy contract?:p

bassslayer 08-30-2013 10:05 AM


Originally Posted by cactiboss (Post 1473517)
Our pay is atrocious there is no doubt about that. Work rules matter on w2 if even the easties don't think so.


I was speaking just to the actual pay rates. I agree the West contract as a whole is much better. I was looking at training pay in the MOU and it described pay for PC/PT's. Doesn't the West do the same CQT type recurrent the East does?

cactiboss 08-30-2013 12:14 PM


Originally Posted by bassslayer (Post 1473524)
I was speaking just to the actual pay rates. I agree the West contract as a whole is much better. I was looking at training pay in the MOU and it described pay for PC/PT's. Doesn't the West do the same CQT type recurrent the East does?

Yep, we just get paid more hours per event.

cactiboss 08-30-2013 12:17 PM


Originally Posted by Gallifrey (Post 1473523)
But Cacti, shouldn't your contract be significantly better since you're comparing the west contract to a bankruptcy contract?:p

Our contract is significantly better so much so the APa wanted most of it and couldn't get it. The pay scales suck but vacation/ltd/guarantees etc. we're industry leading. I'll give you an example: A west crew doing a 3 day phx-hnl with a 24 hr layover blocks 12 hours and gets paid 15:45, an east or aa crew doing same would only get 12 hours. So the west pilot is making the equivalent of $181 an hour compared to the east pilots $160.

Gallifrey 08-30-2013 01:04 PM

wow thats amazing:rolleyes:

DCA A321 FO 08-30-2013 03:34 PM


Originally Posted by cactiboss (Post 1473601)
Our contract is significantly better so much so the APa wanted most of it and couldn't get it. The pay scales suck but vacation/ltd/guarantees etc. we're industry leading. I'll give you an example: A west crew doing a 3 day phx-hnl with a 24 hr layover blocks 12 hours and gets paid 15:45, an east or aa crew doing same would only get 12 hours. So the west pilot is making the equivalent of $181 an hour compared to the east pilots $160.

Captain cactiboss, after the merger it would be an honor to carry your iPad for you on a 4 day trip.

cactiboss 08-30-2013 04:14 PM


Originally Posted by DCA A321 FO (Post 1473682)
Captain cactiboss, after the merger it would be an honor to carry your iPad for you on a 4 day trip.

I don't do 4 day trips.


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