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Old 04-15-2017, 11:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Hueypilot View Post
If they are flows and not trying to get hired outside of the flow, then why would they even have gone through the trouble of applying on Pilot Credentials? I'd say many of the Envoy/PSA/PDT folks probably haven't.

And everyone I know that's seriously looking to jump to the majors has applied to all of them and updates their apps.

Personally I think the 14,000 pilot pool is getting smaller every year, and significantly so. With current hiring, the others (DAL, SWA, UAL, FDX, UPS) are draining that pool by about 2000-2500 pilots each year.
flows still have to fill out the pilot credentials stuff except for the fit assessment thing
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Old 04-16-2017, 05:04 AM
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Settle down, boys.

There is not, nor will there ever be a shortage at mainline.

I know hundreds of people at my former regional who would jump all over an interview. Plus they sure don't have any trouble filling classes with top-shelf military pilots.

Even in a 'shortage' situation, legacies have far, far more applicants than they could ever need. Ten or fifteen thousand applications for maybe 300 OTS jobs.
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Old 04-16-2017, 02:42 PM
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Settle down, boys.

There is not, nor will there ever be a shortage at mainline.

I know hundreds of people at my former regional who would jump all over an interview. Plus they sure don't have any trouble filling classes with top-shelf military pilots.

Even in a 'shortage' situation, legacies have far, far more applicants than they could ever need. Ten or fifteen thousand applications for maybe 300 OTS jobs.
This seems to be most accurate. I have plenty of mil buddies spending a lot of time awaiting anyone to call. Will this change? Undoubtedly. As for now? We all have a name in the hat, same as everyone else.
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Old 04-18-2017, 07:20 PM
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Part of the selection algorithm for Military people at AA is how soon are they available. If you can come to work in a couple of months, it picks up on that.
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Old 04-18-2017, 08:00 PM
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Makes sense. Although a couple of months is well inside of the panic timeline for getting out. The question is, will it change? (Just out of curiosity, I guess.)

The military is becoming an extremely volatile place for pilots planning on separating - whether it's after initial commitment, or getting threatened with a 6 month or 1 year non-flying deployment to end a 24 year career, purely out of spite for getting out.

Meaning - dudes are starting to ditch the dream airline idea for whomever calls first, just so they can get a plan/path in place to enable them to hit "submit" on retirement or separation.

(My plan is already in place, albeit a ****ty one.)
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Old 04-19-2017, 02:59 AM
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Meaning - dudes are starting to ditch the dream airline idea for whomever calls first, just so they can get a plan/path in place to enable them to hit "submit" on retirement or separation.

(My plan is already in place, albeit a ****ty one.)
You should be ready to go to the first that calls anyway. It's not ditching your dream airline, it's getting a j o b while you wait for your dream airline.

I didn't get hired until 1 month before I went on terminal leave.
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Old 04-19-2017, 11:29 AM
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Valid.

You're a braver man than I! I'd have to shave something in place prior to that. I think, anyway. I'm staring down the barrel of regional life for a while it looks like anyway, so not much of a factor for me.
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Valid.

You're a braver man than I! I'd have to shave something in place prior to that. I think, anyway. I'm staring down the barrel of regional life for a while it looks like anyway, so not much of a factor for me.
You have to give the Air Force 6 months notice on your separation. So most guys have to take the "leap of faith". Having a reserve job lined up helps. I had nothing lined up, and rolled the bones. It's a fine line between a hero and a goat, and it worked out.
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Interviewed 20 march, class date 11 Jul. My availability was asap. Super pumped, and not complaining.. but i was really surprised on the long wait. I accepted the class date but said i could start immediately if a slot opened up last minute. Any idea if that's a possibility? .. or should i get a job at subway?

Thx!
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Originally Posted by hawgdawg View Post
Interviewed 20 march, class date 11 Jul. My availability was asap. Super pumped, and not complaining.. but i was really surprised on the long wait. I accepted the class date but said i could start immediately if a slot opened up last minute. Any idea if that's a possibility? .. or should i get a job at subway?

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I offered the same back in January and was told they don't allow standbys anymore.
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