American interviews and class dates
06-13-2017, 07:11 PM
#5471
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Originally Posted by ADFViper
emails went out to folks in the 11 July class today so doesn't look like those folks are impacted
06-14-2017, 02:21 PM
#5472
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Originally Posted by Snaplock
I interviewed in May and have the CJO. Any idea when I can expect to be offered a class? What's the guess on when that class might be?
06-15-2017, 03:01 PM
#5473
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Did my face to face interview today. Very relaxed environment. Of the 10 there were 7 military and 121 pilots. Of the 121 there was Spirit, Expressjet and Envoy.
Overall I felt very prepared. There was only one question I feel I could have answered better. The HR portion was short. I was told it could be a month before hearing back due to scheduling issues with the VP of Flight.
It's going to be a long wait. I am an AA or bust guy.
As far as yesterday and the pilot skills test....it's nothing you can prep for. Just show up ready to perform.
Overall I felt very prepared. There was only one question I feel I could have answered better. The HR portion was short. I was told it could be a month before hearing back due to scheduling issues with the VP of Flight.
It's going to be a long wait. I am an AA or bust guy.
As far as yesterday and the pilot skills test....it's nothing you can prep for. Just show up ready to perform.
06-15-2017, 07:12 PM
#5475
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Originally Posted by LIOG41
What kind of "pep talk" or recruiting "feel good" nuggets are they telling you to sell you on AA? Haven't really heard what they have been telling our interviewees...aircraft, destinations, hiring numbers, etc.
06-15-2017, 07:20 PM
#5476
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Originally Posted by Snaplock
The biggest thing that caught my attention was that out of a 14K+ pilot group they will be retiring 10K pilots over the next 10 years.
06-15-2017, 07:43 PM
#5477
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Originally Posted by C130driver
That means if attrition >= hiring, even then a guy hired today would be at 29% seniority in 10 years. That's pretty solid!? Pretty sure that's group 3 CA in some bases? May be mistaken
Yes, Delta and United have major retirements as well, but the percentage at American is higher.
For those who lived through 9/11, furloughs, bankruptcies, and everything else, as well as those who have been sitting at the regionals for 25 years, it simply takes their breath away.
I am not being a rah rah. The demographics are something one cannot deny. Even if bad stuff happens, the demographics are going to be like a steamroller.
06-16-2017, 07:16 AM
#5479
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Public math warning -
10 years from midway through 2017 to midway through 2027 is 8063 published retirements. Actual retirements probably run 15% higher (that's 2017's approximate bump).
Tallflyer's 2012(?) data on apc shows AA having the most retirements until 2027.
Typical 2014/2015 flow through retires in 2030/2031 so AA's new hire data has a secondary bump not shown in Tallflyer's posts.
10 years from midway through 2017 to midway through 2027 is 8063 published retirements. Actual retirements probably run 15% higher (that's 2017's approximate bump).
Tallflyer's 2012(?) data on apc shows AA having the most retirements until 2027.
Typical 2014/2015 flow through retires in 2030/2031 so AA's new hire data has a secondary bump not shown in Tallflyer's posts.
06-16-2017, 07:25 AM
#5480
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Originally Posted by C130driver
That means if attrition >= hiring, even then a guy hired today would be at 29% seniority in 10 years. That's pretty solid!? Pretty sure that's group 3 CA in some bases? May be mistaken
Without number crunching the drawdown of G3 fleet makes 36%, IMO, doubtful as a G3 CA. Number crunched - Bottom (none MIA- TWA exception) is approx 5400 today.
It does put you at 43% of n/b CA's system wide.
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