crzipilot

So with the MOU etc, Distance Learning was to be paid on the east side.

Funny, today they announce the newest DL course, 6 days before the POR.

Bulletin says first course offered AFTER POR will be paid.

So I guess one more course unpaid for the masters....

Wiskey Driver

Dist learning has always been paid w.t.f are you crying about now?

WD at AWA

crzipilot

yes I know, The west has that superior contract.

but alas. there are still two contracts on this property and the one I'm under doesn't get paid for DL That is *** i'm crying about.

Would it have been so hard for the company to simply put the course out on the 10th? Hence level playing field for everyone.

Now what do you get paid? Do you get paid the 1/2 hourly rate for the agreed upon time to complete the course. Or is it a flat rate like 25.00 or 50.00 or something like that? Just curious 'cause I don't know.

flybywire44

Yes, but is this 4Q training earlier than previous releases?

We're talking peanuts in the grand scheme of things.

Think about the profit sharing we have coming in 1Q 2014.

Its all good browski!

crzipilot

I understand it's peanuts, but sometimes you look at how the wind changes to see how the weather going forward is going to be. A change of cultural so to speak.

Sort of like the vacation. West has it, AA has it. East side, Oh sorry, you will have to accural the new days through the year for '15.

I guess your ok with that interpretation?

How about the premium pay / DH etc etc. things which should be easy to implement, but as a TBD next to it.


Strange as it might be, my bellweather of how this is going to go down is the uniforms. If the redesign is something decent and of quality. I would say it's a good sign going forward. If it's cheap material. Looks cheap while worn, (in all uniformed job classifications) then expect more of the same going forward...

PurpleTurtle

They are declaring full continuation of the war if they don't immediately pay full DH pay after POR. The contract language is clear. They owe us full DH pay.

On the other hand, the vacation language in the contract is also clear, but not in our favor. Sorry, but they just plain punked us on it. They aren't cheating. They were just smarter than our NAC was.

I agree with you completely, the company has a narrow window to show they aim to correct the management culture. I don't see anything changing.

If they pretend it will "take time" to fix DH pay, then that says it all about where they are going with this whole new company.

crzipilot

I'll admit I didn't read the vacation section completely.....I'll go back and look at it. How about premium pay for POTA trips?

PurpleTurtle

Read the Green Book for vacation. We got punked. The company knew it when they negotiated with APA. Our NAC may have caught it but who knows. We voted for it. Everybody best get used to saying "We voted for it" (That is not to say we let the company off the hook on the things they owe us, like DH, they voted for it too).

Sorry, didn't read the POTA section too closely. I don't do POTA, have never done POTA, and will never do POTA. I live out of state so they would have to DH me to the trip, and they only pay 1/2 on DH!

R57 relay

I think this pretty much allows the company to implement anything, except for pay and DC contribution, when they want to:

The Parties further understand, however, that it will take some period of time for those terms to be implemented. Accordingly, except for those terms specifically identified in Paragraph 3, the Parties agree that each term of the MTA shall be applicable to all US Airways pilots at the earliest practicable time for each such term, and such terms, when applicable, shall govern and displace any conflicting or wholly or partially inconsistent provision of the former US Airways pilot agreements or the status quo arising thereunder. Once the MTA has been fully implemented, it shall fully displace and render a nullity any prior
collective bargaining agreements applicable to US Airways pilots and any status quo arising
thereunder.

I guess you could argue that "pay" under section 3 should be premium rate for POTA, but I doubt we'll win it.

Hey, we voted for it. USAPA is in court arguing that a deal is a deal whether you understood it or not. I guess we could ignore the RLA grievance process and file a DFR, but I doubt it will do any good. ;-)

Vacation has always been accrue on one year, receive the next. When LOA 93 gutted vacation, we got what we had accrued the next year, then accrued the lower amount. Would have been a nice gesture to give it to us early, but.....

Be reserve and 1/2 pay for DH will be great in Jan! Unless they decide that PNC is dead.

PurpleTurtle

DUI has a "nice" gesture for us...

With our new pay rates we can afford to buy our own flowers, chocolates, wine, vaseline, and smokes.