Inflight rest facilities
#1
Inflight rest facilities
What kind of rest facilities do you have on your 8-12 hour aircraft at AA and USAir? Delta currently uses Class 2 & 3 for their 8-12 hour fights on 330-300/767/757. The longer range 744/777/330-200 have Class 1. The latest agreement calls for Delta to convert all the A330s to Class 1 regardless of range.
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Last edited by Wilbur Wright; 05-27-2014 at 11:56 AM.
#2
What kind of rest facilities do you have on your 8-12 hour aircraft at AA and USAir? Delta currently uses Class 2 & 3 for their 8-12 hour fights on 330-300/767/757. The longer range 744/777/330-200 have Class 1. The latest agreement calls for Delta to convert all the A330s to Class 1 regardless of range.
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#3
On the US side:
757: Class 3 (no curtain, recliner-style business class seat, adjacent seat is, I believe, available for assignment to passengers)
767: Class 2 (Curtain encloses 2 angled lie-flat business class seats)
A332: Class 2 that the company is currently operating as Class 1 under an FAA waiver
A333: I believe Class 2, curtain enclosing a lie-flat business class suite.
757: Class 3 (no curtain, recliner-style business class seat, adjacent seat is, I believe, available for assignment to passengers)
767: Class 2 (Curtain encloses 2 angled lie-flat business class seats)
A332: Class 2 that the company is currently operating as Class 1 under an FAA waiver
A333: I believe Class 2, curtain enclosing a lie-flat business class suite.
#4
Blocked? That's good. For us it's the last seat sold in business class and can be occupied by a nonrev. What kind of seats? Thanks!
#5
On the US side:
757: Class 3 (no curtain, recliner-style business class seat, adjacent seat is, I believe, available for assignment to passengers)
767: Class 2 (Curtain encloses 2 angled lie-flat business class seats)
A332: Class 2 that the company is currently operating as Class 1 under an FAA waiver
A333: I believe Class 2, curtain enclosing a lie-flat business class suite.
757: Class 3 (no curtain, recliner-style business class seat, adjacent seat is, I believe, available for assignment to passengers)
767: Class 2 (Curtain encloses 2 angled lie-flat business class seats)
A332: Class 2 that the company is currently operating as Class 1 under an FAA waiver
A333: I believe Class 2, curtain enclosing a lie-flat business class suite.
#6
At AA 777-200's are Class 1 bunks.
We are also reconfiguring all 777-200's to a 2 class config (Biz and Coach) 1st class on the 777-200's is going away.
2 per month refurb'd in Hong Kong.
Our 777-300's have the upstairs forward for Pilots crew rest and in the back upstairs for FA's.
I've flown the 777-300 3 times now. Once as FB there is no air ventilation ANYTIME below 25,000' So if you're the FB it takes about 20+ minutes to BEGIN to cool down up there.
We are also reconfiguring all 777-200's to a 2 class config (Biz and Coach) 1st class on the 777-200's is going away.
2 per month refurb'd in Hong Kong.
Our 777-300's have the upstairs forward for Pilots crew rest and in the back upstairs for FA's.
I've flown the 777-300 3 times now. Once as FB there is no air ventilation ANYTIME below 25,000' So if you're the FB it takes about 20+ minutes to BEGIN to cool down up there.
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Your comments are interesting to me. I flew the 777-200 for DL and the rest facility was not authorized for occupancy below 25,000' for the reasons you stated. After leaving Delta I spent a couple of years at Air India flying the 777-300. The Air India planes also had the upstairs rest facilities, but they were authorized for all phases of light. The original Delta 777s were modified after delivery, so I thought that was the reason the ventilation was restricted on those planes. When I got to AI I figured the installations were done at the factory and were more useful because they were more of a standard component. At AI I had folks upstairs for takeoff and landing several times and no one ever complained about the ventilation. Now I wonder if Boeing has two different ways of installing those rest facilities.
#9
I'm just a co-pilot I don't turn anything off unless instructed to do so.
this isn't a slam against you Slice. It is the way it is.
and it wouldn't be wise in MIA to be turning off a pack on the ground with summertime temps today.
#10
Your comments are interesting to me. I flew the 777-200 for DL and the rest facility was not authorized for occupancy below 25,000' for the reasons you stated. After leaving Delta I spent a couple of years at Air India flying the 777-300. The Air India planes also had the upstairs rest facilities, but they were authorized for all phases of light. The original Delta 777s were modified after delivery, so I thought that was the reason the ventilation was restricted on those planes. When I got to AI I figured the installations were done at the factory and were more useful because they were more of a standard component. At AI I had folks upstairs for takeoff and landing several times and no one ever complained about the ventilation. Now I wonder if Boeing has two different ways of installing those rest facilities.
At AA on the 777-200ER the bunks are behind the cockpit just outside the door.
On the 777-300ER the bunks are upstairs. We were told. For egress reasons they do not want anyone up there below 25,000' The upstairs does have an escape hatch that drops open at row 2 or 3.
None of the AA 777-200's have upstairs. Only the 300's
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