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Originally Posted by UNDPilot (Post 1664551)

This changed with RC1 a few months back.

Indeed it did, it just didn't make it into the highlight reel. ;)

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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1663636)

That's for first officers. Additionally, they have to update their captain every 15 minutes on their level of sobriety.

Lol, good one!

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Originally Posted by bigscrillywilli (Post 1664006)

You just need to wear a neon vest at the bar if you want to drink from the 12-8 hour range.

Another good one!

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Originally Posted by 450knotOffice (Post 1663646)

LOL!

Nah, the FM-1 simply re-states the FAR, and then goes on to state that the company limit is .02. That's it. Basically, AA puts the onus on us - as adults - to police ourselves. Imagine that. ;)

Almost every blood alcohol content chart has a female at .03 and .04 after one drink. Only females over 200 pounds would stay at .02 with one drink.

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Originally Posted by justjack (Post 1665249)

Almost every blood alcohol content chart has a female at .03 and .04 after one drink. Only females over 200 pounds would stay at .02 with one drink.

I'm not sure what your point is since (hopefully) nobody is having a drink immediately prior to flight.

More relevant is, how many drinks can you have *8 hours* before duty and show up with a BAC of less than .02

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Originally Posted by ackattacker (Post 1665339)

If you have to think about it, and calculate it, you're likely to close for comfort, in my opinion.

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Originally Posted by justjack (Post 1665249)

Almost every blood alcohol content chart has a female at .03 and .04 after one drink. Only females over 200 pounds would stay at .02 with one drink.

To restate, what I mean is AA has no set bottle to throttle rule other than FARs. Beyond that, one can NEVER be at work with a BAC of .02 or more.

Is that more clear? ;)

Metabolized at .15 per hour.

How Long Does Alcohol Stay in the Body?

The rate at which alcohol is metabolized is the same for virtually everyone regardless of their height, weight, sex, race or other such characteristics.

Alcohol is metabolized at the rate of .015 of blood alcohol concentration (BAC) every hour. 1 Thus a person with a very high BAC of .15 will have no measurable alcohol in the bloodstream after ten hours (.15 divided by .015 = 10). Here are some other examples:

BAC Level

Metabolism Time in Hours

.10 6.66
.08 5.33
.05 3.33
.02 1.33

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Originally Posted by 450knotOffice (Post 1665383)

To restate, what I mean is AA has no set bottle to throttle rule other than FARs. Beyond that, one can NEVER be at work with a BAC of .02 or more.

Is that more clear? ;)

Yes - My bad.

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Originally Posted by Sliceback (Post 1665392)

Did you click on "How Alcohol Affects Us: the Biphasic Curve" on that same page? Just skimmed the page but I think that we are talking about two different things - BAC and alcohol metabolism. Either way, interesting article and your point I'm guessing is that if a male and a female both stop drinking 8 hours prior and with the same BAC that they will metabolize it at the same rate - which IS the relevant point. Sorry about the confusion.