30 fewer aircraft post merger
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30 fewer aircraft post merger
American Airlines and US Airways to finish 2015 with 30 fewer aircraft | Dallas Morning News
American Airlines Group said Tuesday that the American Airlines and US Airways fleets will have 953 aircraft at the end of 2015, down 30 airplanes and 3.1 percent from Dec. 31, 2014.
The three oldest fleets — McDonnell Douglas MD-80, Boeing 757 and Boeing 767 – will show the biggest declines, AAG said in an investor update,
The MD-80 fleet will shrink the most, dropping 43 aircraft to finish 2015 with 96 airplanes. The Boeing 757 will lose 37 aircraft to finish at 69. All six Boeing 767-200s will leave the fleet, and the Boeing 767-300 fleet will drop nine aircraft to 49.
American expects to accept 12 Boeing 787-8s in 2015. It took delivery of its first one last week. A year ago, American projected that it would take two 787s in 2014 and 11 in 2015.
But the biggest jumps will come in American’s biggest fleets, the Boeing 737-800 and Airbus A321. American expects to take 18 737-800s in 2015, taking that fleet to 264 aircraft. It intends to take 35 A321s, growing the A321 fleet to 174.
The decrease in seats will be less drastic than the decrease in airplanes for several reasons. 1) Some of the airplanes in the fleet on Dec. 31, 2014, were already grounded. 2) AA is upgauging as the average size of airplane increases. 3) AA over time is increasing the number of seats per airplane.
For example, the 737-800 is going from 150 seats to 160 seats. The 777-200 is going from 247 seats to 260 and eventually to 289.
Here are the year-end 2014 numbers compared to the projected numbers for the end of 2015:
Fleet 2015 2014 Change %
Airbus A319 125 118 7 5.9%
Airbus A320 55 64 -9 -14.1%
Airbus A321 174 139 35 25.2%
Airbus A330-200 15 15 0 0.0%
Airbus A330-300 9 9 0 0.0%
Boeing 737-800 264 246 18 7.3%
Boeing 757 69 106 -37 -34.9%
Boeing 767-200 0 6 -6 NA
Boeing 767-300 49 58 -9 -15.5%
Boeing 777-200 47 47 0 0.0%
Boeing 777-300 18 16 2 12.5%
Boeing 787-8 12 0 12 NA
Embraer E190 20 20 0 0.0%
McDonnell Douglas MD-80 96 139 -43 -30.9%
Total 953 983 -30 -3.1%
American Airlines Group said Tuesday that the American Airlines and US Airways fleets will have 953 aircraft at the end of 2015, down 30 airplanes and 3.1 percent from Dec. 31, 2014.
The three oldest fleets — McDonnell Douglas MD-80, Boeing 757 and Boeing 767 – will show the biggest declines, AAG said in an investor update,
The MD-80 fleet will shrink the most, dropping 43 aircraft to finish 2015 with 96 airplanes. The Boeing 757 will lose 37 aircraft to finish at 69. All six Boeing 767-200s will leave the fleet, and the Boeing 767-300 fleet will drop nine aircraft to 49.
American expects to accept 12 Boeing 787-8s in 2015. It took delivery of its first one last week. A year ago, American projected that it would take two 787s in 2014 and 11 in 2015.
But the biggest jumps will come in American’s biggest fleets, the Boeing 737-800 and Airbus A321. American expects to take 18 737-800s in 2015, taking that fleet to 264 aircraft. It intends to take 35 A321s, growing the A321 fleet to 174.
The decrease in seats will be less drastic than the decrease in airplanes for several reasons. 1) Some of the airplanes in the fleet on Dec. 31, 2014, were already grounded. 2) AA is upgauging as the average size of airplane increases. 3) AA over time is increasing the number of seats per airplane.
For example, the 737-800 is going from 150 seats to 160 seats. The 777-200 is going from 247 seats to 260 and eventually to 289.
Here are the year-end 2014 numbers compared to the projected numbers for the end of 2015:
Fleet 2015 2014 Change %
Airbus A319 125 118 7 5.9%
Airbus A320 55 64 -9 -14.1%
Airbus A321 174 139 35 25.2%
Airbus A330-200 15 15 0 0.0%
Airbus A330-300 9 9 0 0.0%
Boeing 737-800 264 246 18 7.3%
Boeing 757 69 106 -37 -34.9%
Boeing 767-200 0 6 -6 NA
Boeing 767-300 49 58 -9 -15.5%
Boeing 777-200 47 47 0 0.0%
Boeing 777-300 18 16 2 12.5%
Boeing 787-8 12 0 12 NA
Embraer E190 20 20 0 0.0%
McDonnell Douglas MD-80 96 139 -43 -30.9%
Total 953 983 -30 -3.1%
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Reducing fleet size, 30 less airplanes, about 300 pilots and that is just the start.
Factor in the synergies yet to come, plus 321's flown at group 2 rates and the yet unknown number of group 1 airplanes. Times are looking good
Where do I sign up for some more concessions?
Factor in the synergies yet to come, plus 321's flown at group 2 rates and the yet unknown number of group 1 airplanes. Times are looking good
Where do I sign up for some more concessions?
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Reducing fleet size, 30 less airplanes, about 300 pilots and that is just the start.
Factor in the synergies yet to come, plus 321's flown at group 2 rates and the yet unknown number of group 1 airplanes. Times are looking good
Where do I sign up for some more concessions?
Factor in the synergies yet to come, plus 321's flown at group 2 rates and the yet unknown number of group 1 airplanes. Times are looking good
Where do I sign up for some more concessions?
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Position: recalled until the next round of right sizing to optimise synergies
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I know you cant comprehend any of that, but others reading this might
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Your absolutely correct, but what it will do is give us something to bargain with later to change those two things. You see if we give it all up now, sometime in 2020 we wont have anything to give up except the pay rates whi... never mind
I know you cant comprehend any of that, but others reading this might
I know you cant comprehend any of that, but others reading this might
Pretty easy to comprehend, yet most are still not seeing the forest through the trees (like you).
Also note they are in fact increasing the 319 fleet size, not shrinking it, like some predicted.
Does anyone know what the block hours will be? That is the biggest determining factor with staffing.
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But your net pay over the next 10 years will be less, try to comprehend that. Not to mention less days at home with your kids if you vote YES
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Your absolutely correct, but what it will do is give us something to bargain with later to change those two things. You see if we give it all up now, sometime in 2020 we wont have anything to give up except the pay rates whi... never mind
I know you cant comprehend any of that, but others reading this might
I know you cant comprehend any of that, but others reading this might
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Posts: 8,350
Arbitration provides perhaps 75% of our pay increase as per the MOU without the requirement to give ANY of Doug's "wants". You're saying we'd just give him all his wants for the remaining 25% (or whatever the approximate percentage is) ?
That's poor bargaining. Besides THIS arbitration isn't about bargaining, it's about bringing the US Airways contracts into compliance with the Green Book/MOU which is our default CBA.
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