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86dabadones 03-21-2015 08:52 PM

logbook forgery
 
So, what should happen to one who signs a forged name to the aircraft logbook of a major airline and its been verified as a forgery? Should the TSA be involved, FBI, FAA, company HR for inticing a hostile work place? What is this persons mental stability? Would you fly with that person and/or bring your family along? how could the FO allow this as he is required to view the logbook also.

Route66 03-22-2015 03:28 AM


Originally Posted by 86dabadones (Post 1847247)
So, what should happen to one who signs a forged name to the aircraft logbook of a major airline and its been verified as a forgery? Should the TSA be involved, FBI, FAA, company HR for inticing a hostile work place? What is this persons mental stability? Would you fly with that person and/or bring your family along? how could the FO allow this as he is required to view the logbook also.

Where is THIS coming from?

HercDriver130 03-22-2015 04:13 AM

first post really..... mods need to get on this....

86dabadones 03-22-2015 06:04 AM


Originally Posted by Route66 (Post 1847280)
Where is THIS coming from?

It happened february 21. signature was G.Nicolau III. The arbitraitor that ruled in america west vs. us airways pilots is George Nicolau III. Captain of the flight is phoenix based. There is no G. Nicolau III on ANY list at New American. So the phoenix pilots keep creating an air of hostility which by the way is against company policy. Those AOL ( army of leonidas ) ties that they wear , creating hostility was bad enough , but now forging a logbook? Thats beyond belief.

Arado 234 03-22-2015 06:15 AM


Originally Posted by 86dabadones (Post 1847302)
It happened february 21. signature was G.Nicolau III. The arbitraitor that ruled in america west vs. us airways pilots is George Nicolau III. Captain of the flight is phoenix based. There is no G. Nicolau III on ANY list at New American. So the phoenix pilots keep creating an air of hostility which by the way is against company policy. Those AOL ( army of leonidas ) ties that they wear , creating hostility was bad enough , but now forging a logbook? Thats beyond belief.

Pick your poison... Leaving a/c in a questionable state or creative signatures in the logbook.

Agree with you on mental stability though. Isn't there something in the regs about a "good moral character"?

Frisco727 03-22-2015 06:39 AM


Originally Posted by 86dabadones (Post 1847302)
It happened february 21. signature was G.Nicolau III. The arbitraitor that ruled in america west vs. us airways pilots is George Nicolau III. Captain of the flight is phoenix based. There is no G. Nicolau III on ANY list at New American. So the phoenix pilots keep creating an air of hostility which by the way is against company policy. Those AOL ( army of leonidas ) ties that they wear , creating hostility was bad enough , but now forging a logbook? Thats beyond belief.

Great, another thread on the East-West food fight. Is this what it has come to, ties and a logbook signature? Pathetic.

Saabs 03-22-2015 09:00 AM


Originally Posted by 86dabadones (Post 1847302)
It happened february 21. signature was G.Nicolau III. The arbitraitor that ruled in america west vs. us airways pilots is George Nicolau III. Captain of the flight is phoenix based. There is no G. Nicolau III on ANY list at New American. So the phoenix pilots keep creating an air of hostility which by the way is against company policy. Those AOL ( army of leonidas ) ties that they wear , creating hostility was bad enough , but now forging a logbook? Thats beyond belief.

Who cares........

Facebitten 03-22-2015 09:14 AM

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Route66 03-22-2015 09:31 AM


Originally Posted by Frisco727 (Post 1847320)
Great, another thread on the East-West food fight. Is this what it has come to, ties and a logbook signature? Pathetic.

You got THAT right!

flyergurl 03-22-2015 09:42 AM

Is this why signatures should never be legible?

DC8DRIVER 03-22-2015 10:35 AM


Originally Posted by 86dabadones (Post 1847302)
It happened february 21. signature was G.Nicolau III. The arbitraitor that ruled in america west vs. us airways pilots is George Nicolau III. Captain of the flight is phoenix based. There is no G. Nicolau III on ANY list at New American. So the phoenix pilots keep creating an air of hostility which by the way is against company policy. Those AOL ( army of leonidas ) ties that they wear , creating hostility was bad enough , but now forging a logbook? Thats beyond belief.

Get over it and move on ...

"Variations between the signature and the name appearing in the body of the instrument do not automatically invalidate the instrument. In the absence of a statutory prohibition, an individual can use any character, symbol, figure, or designation he wishes to adopt as a signature, and if he uses it as a substitute for his name, he is bound by it. An individual can also use a fictitious name or the name of a business firm. A signature might also be adequate to validate an instrument even if it is virtually illegible. The entire name does not have to be written, and the inclusion of a middle name is not significant."

signature legal definition of signature

Frisco727 03-22-2015 11:10 AM


Originally Posted by Route66 (Post 1847392)
You got THAT right!

I think most of us got it right, looking at the comments.

86 this thread.:cool:

PurpleTurtle 03-22-2015 11:32 AM

All they have is a $5 tie they paid $675 to keep in good graces with their buds. If they feel they are winning by signing a logbook, it's obvious they are howling at the wind.

I'm glad I'll never be a chief pilot. Babysitters have it easier.


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