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757HI 03-27-2015 06:11 AM

contract implimentation
 
Well well,

13 or more PHX/SNA turns just got dumped into open time for April.

Credit? About 2:33 each. (Thank you bobble-headed yes voters who never saw a company contract they didn't like, in their entire careers).

Looks like PHX keeping 5:15 in PBS until the Grand Combining (SLI) turned out to be more union double-speak hogwash.

The co. is wasting NO time implementing everything that is in their favor and taking their sweet F'ing time implementing everything else, oh, except those "industry leading pay rates"....

Bobble head says (sounding just like Gomer Pile):
"Look mamma! Gaw-ley! I bee a aerlan pylot!"

I think I'll go get some $450 bottle of wine to celebrate...

Thanks Bobble-Headed Army

Dashdog 03-27-2015 06:35 AM

Sounds like you already opened the wine. Or is it whine?

Route66 03-27-2015 06:55 AM


Originally Posted by 757HI (Post 1850769)
Well well,

13 or more PHX/SNA turns just got dumped into open time for April.

Credit? About 2:33 each. (Thank you bobble-headed yes voters who never saw a company contract they didn't like, in their entire careers).

Looks like PHX keeping 5:15 in PBS until the Grand Combining (SLI) turned out to be more union double-speak hogwash.

The co. is wasting NO time implementing everything that is in their favor and taking their sweet F'ing time implementing everything else, oh, except those "industry leading pay rates"....

Bobble head says (sounding just like Gomer Pile):
"Look mamma! Gaw-ley! I bee a aerlan pylot!"

I think I'll go get some $450 bottle of wine to celebrate...

Thanks Bobble-Headed Army

Quit whining westie. You're getting what you get.
Quit whining "third listers". You're getting what you need.
Quit whining APA pilots, you're getting what you deserve.

I've got mine, just like you taught me.

The actions of this pilot group will soon be even MORE restricted after what happened with GermanWings. Embrace it because we've earned it with all the lawsuits, the name calling, the $300 bottles of "whine" and the backstabbing.

Enjoy the ride.

BTW American pilots read your CBS messages and be warned: Dissemination of SSI to UNAUTHORIZED personal is a federal offense.

How you act and comport yourself both in public, in uniform and in the cockpit will be heavily scrutinized so do yourselves a favor and FOLLOW THE SOP'S THE COMPANY HAS ESTABLISHED. THEY ARE APPROVED BY THE FAA. Consider this a public service announcement for the radical pilots here and elsewhere.

Good luck.

PurpleTurtle 03-27-2015 06:56 AM


Originally Posted by 757HI (Post 1850769)
Well well,

13 or more PHX/SNA turns just got dumped into open time for April.

Credit? About 2:33 each. (Thank you bobble-headed yes voters who never saw a company contract they didn't like, in their entire careers).

Looks like PHX keeping 5:15 in PBS until the Grand Combining (SLI) turned out to be more union double-speak hogwash.

The co. is wasting NO time implementing everything that is in their favor and taking their sweet F'ing time implementing everything else, oh, except those "industry leading pay rates"....

Bobble head says (sounding just like Gomer Pile):
"Look mamma! Gaw-ley! I bee a aerlan pylot!"

I think I'll go get some $450 bottle of wine to celebrate...

Thanks Bobble-Headed Army

Kirby threw cash into the air and the money hungry mob poured itself onto the busy highway to scoop it up.

Many are still oblivious to the bus bumper tapping their a$$.. The bobble headed voters are hallucinating that they are driving the bus.

757HI 03-27-2015 07:04 AM


Originally Posted by Dashdog (Post 1850785)
Sounds like you already opened the wine. Or is it whine?

Kirby? Izzat you? Only a management lackey would ridicule a pilot for lamenting a giant giveaway.

eaglefly 03-27-2015 07:35 AM


Originally Posted by Route66 (Post 1850799)
Quit whining westie. You're getting what you get.
Quit whining "third listers". You're getting what you need.
Quit whining APA pilots, you're getting what you deserve.

I've got mine, just like you taught me.

The actions of this pilot group will soon be even MORE restricted after what happened with GermanWings. Embrace it because we've earned it with all the lawsuits, the name calling, the $300 bottles of "whine" and the backstabbing.

Enjoy the ride.

BTW American pilots read your CBS messages and be warned: Dissemination of SSI to UNAUTHORIZED personal is a federal offense.

How you act and comport yourself both in public, in uniform and in the cockpit will be heavily scrutinized so do yourselves a favor and FOLLOW THE SOP'S THE COMPANY HAS ESTABLISHED. THEY ARE APPROVED BY THE FAA. Consider this a public service announcement for the radical pilots here and elsewhere.

Good luck.

If I was going to advocate anyone I know at AA/U to be subjected to a psych evaluation, it would be you. I find it amazing you repeatedly place yourself in some supposed elevated psychological bubble of stable purity while simultaneously ranting and foaming about the inadeqacies and faliures of all those but yourself.

Of course, since you apparently believe me to be a Communist, I suspect you will reject my observations as liberal Marxist/Lennonist. :rolleyes:

Carry on my amusing little baton-twirler and continue to lead the parade of the self-rightous !

Route66 03-27-2015 08:00 AM


Originally Posted by eaglefly (Post 1850833)
If I was going to advocate anyone I know at AA/U to be subjected to a psych evaluation, it would be you. I find it amazing you repeatedly place yourself in some supposed elevated psychological bubble of stable purity while simultaneously ranting and foaming about the inadeqacies and faliures of all those but yourself.

Of course, since you apparently believe me to be a Communist, I suspect you will reject my observations as liberal Marxist/Lennonist. :rolleyes:

Carry on my amusing little baton-twirler and continue to lead the parade of the self-rightous !

BRING IT ON! I welcome the "evaluation". Just not from the likes of a narcissist like you and your APA "representatives" having their "wine and cheese" parties on out nickel.

I pass my physicals with flying colors and my AME has known me and my medical records for 30 years. I'm sure you fly your airplane from the web boards just like you do your "psych" evals.

Route66 03-27-2015 08:01 AM


Originally Posted by eaglefly (Post 1850833)
If I was going to advocate anyone I know at AA/U to be subjected to a psych evaluation, it would be you. I find it amazing you repeatedly place yourself in some supposed elevated psychological bubble of stable purity while simultaneously ranting and foaming about the inadeqacies and faliures of all those but yourself.

Of course, since you apparently believe me to be a Communist, I suspect you will reject my observations as liberal Marxist/Lennonist. :rolleyes:

Carry on my amusing little baton-twirler and continue to lead the parade of the self-rightous !

BTW....I got mine!

inline five 03-27-2015 08:02 AM


Originally Posted by 757HI (Post 1850769)
Well well,

13 or more PHX/SNA turns just got dumped into open time for April.

Credit? About 2:33 each. (Thank you bobble-headed yes voters who never saw a company contract they didn't like, in their entire careers).

Looks like PHX keeping 5:15 in PBS until the Grand Combining (SLI) turned out to be more union double-speak hogwash.

The co. is wasting NO time implementing everything that is in their favor and taking their sweet F'ing time implementing everything else, oh, except those "industry leading pay rates"....

Bobble head says (sounding just like Gomer Pile):
"Look mamma! Gaw-ley! I bee a aerlan pylot!"

I think I'll go get some $450 bottle of wine to celebrate...

Thanks Bobble-Headed Army

They should pay the min duty day of what, 5:00 currently?

Didn't PHX vote almost 95/5 YES? If there ever was a base who couldn't complain, it's them.

As for not implementing the contract items, it's horse ####.

eaglefly 03-27-2015 08:22 AM


Originally Posted by Route66 (Post 1850855)
BTW....I got mine!

Nope......no hysteria or paranoia here.

I rest my case. :cool:

Route66 03-27-2015 08:31 AM


Originally Posted by eaglefly (Post 1850876)
Nope......no hysteria or paranoia here.

I rest my case. :cool:

Hey, just reciting the APA "mantra"!!:D

drinksonme 03-27-2015 09:53 AM

What's West min duty credit?

Solution:

It's in open time right? Let reserves fly it and don't pick it up. That way they burn manpower for nothing trips. Just saying.

PurpleTurtle 03-27-2015 04:17 PM


Originally Posted by inline five (Post 1850857)
They should pay the min duty day of what, 5:00 currently?

Didn't PHX vote almost 95/5 YES? If there ever was a base who couldn't complain, it's them.

As for not implementing the contract items, it's horse ####.

Last I heard the "min pay per duty period" is not scheduled to be implemented until PBS... sometime in 2016.

I agree, its horseSh1T, but "we" said "yes".

PurpleTurtle 03-27-2015 04:28 PM


Originally Posted by Route66 (Post 1850885)
Hey, just reciting the APA "mantra"!!:D

And don't forget, "you'll be senior someday". :D

Anyone that doesn't realize the APA made everyone and independent contractor... they ain't paying attention.

Follow the FM, the OM, and the contract. Live long and prosper.

Route66 03-27-2015 05:39 PM


Originally Posted by PurpleTurtle (Post 1851234)
Last I heard the "min pay per duty period" is not scheduled to be implemented until PBS... sometime in 2016.

I agree, its horseSh1T, but "we" said "yes".


Originally Posted by PurpleTurtle (Post 1851244)
And don't forget, "you'll be senior someday". :D

Anyone that doesn't realize the APA made everyone and independent contractor... they ain't paying attention.

Follow the FM, the OM, and the contract. Live long and prosper.

What I've been saying all along. In short.....
"RESISTANCE IS FUTILE".

Saabs 03-27-2015 08:04 PM


Originally Posted by Route66 (Post 1850799)
Quit whining westie. You're getting what you get.
Quit whining "third listers". You're getting what you need.
Quit whining APA pilots, you're getting what you deserve.

I've got mine, just like you taught me.

The actions of this pilot group will soon be even MORE restricted after what happened with GermanWings. Embrace it because we've earned it with all the lawsuits, the name calling, the $300 bottles of "whine" and the backstabbing.

Enjoy the ride.

BTW American pilots read your CBS messages and be warned: Dissemination of SSI to UNAUTHORIZED personal is a federal offense.

How you act and comport yourself both in public, in uniform and in the cockpit will be heavily scrutinized so do yourselves a favor and FOLLOW THE SOP'S THE COMPANY HAS ESTABLISHED. THEY ARE APPROVED BY THE FAA. Consider this a public service announcement for the radical pilots here and elsewhere.

Good luck.

Your an idiot. Man up and respond.

MarineGrunt 03-27-2015 08:17 PM


Originally Posted by Saabs (Post 1851357)
Your an idiot. Man up and respond.

Lol... Never fails...

Route66 03-28-2015 02:28 AM


Originally Posted by Saabs (Post 1851357)
Your an idiot. Man up and respond.

Uh....man up and respond? To what?

That he/she has an open ended contract that the Compamy has Carte Blanche to implement? I mean, that's what the complaint was about.

Really?

Hey, why don't YOU run for union office and show us how it's done?

CaptainBigWood 03-29-2015 01:36 AM

Remember LOA93 3% in 2010. Parker did not honor it or implement it. This is really no different. This is America West management running American.

texaspilot76 03-29-2015 10:57 PM


Originally Posted by CaptainBigWood (Post 1852017)
Remember LOA93 3% in 2010. Parker did not honor it or implement it. This is really no different. This is America West management running American.

From my recollection, LOA 93 went to an arbitrator and he found that there was no raise to be given. Sounds like there was poor language or no evidence to support the raise. Blame it on your union for that.

EMB4Ever 03-30-2015 06:07 AM


Originally Posted by texaspilot76 (Post 1852617)
From my recollection, LOA 93 went to an arbitrator and he found that there was no raise to be given. Sounds like there was poor language or no evidence to support the raise. Blame it on your union for that.

LOA 93 is now 2 documents outdated. I blame less than thoughtful pilots that vote yes on ****ty contracts with weak language that allows for such things.

Know of any?


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