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Saabs 03-27-2015 08:02 PM
Originally Posted by Hueypilot (Post 1851337)
FWIW, CLT is also expanding. Fourth parallel runway will eventually go in, and then they'll take out RWY 23 and start turning that area into a more efficient terminal layout.

CLT will probably lose a chunk of the international flying, but the domestic flying will likely continue unabated. It's a moneymaker for the company. I seriously doubt it'll decline by half.
I'll miss that hump

jcountry 03-28-2015 05:23 AM
Plus PHL has HORRIBLE weather!

1"-to 3" of snow shuts the whole airport down. And when ice hits, it is full-retard zombie apocalypse!

-Sure, CLT has bad storms every once in a while, but not 6 times per month.

PHL is definitely not a good wx airport. Definitely a factor.

Veeone2 03-28-2015 05:48 AM
IMHO. CLT is too close to ATL. Wont want to abandon that region for folks who dont want Delta.... Imagine that. Lol

PHL allows them around congestion and slot restrictions from NYC with a viable intl alternative. Just sayin....either way were all just along for the ride. ;)

tailendcharlie 03-28-2015 06:00 AM
If CLT survives as a hub it will buck the trend of small-market hubs disappearing - MEM, CVG, PIT. CLT has very very low O & D, ala RDU & BNA. "Most profitable" hub, maybe in terms of margin due to very low costs certainly not in raw $$ amounts. "7th busiest airport" Fresno could be the 7th busiest airport if you decide to funnel all your connections through it.

PurpleTurtle 03-28-2015 07:16 AM
Originally Posted by tailendcharlie (Post 1851465)
If CLT survives as a hub it will buck the trend of small-market hubs disappearing - MEM, CVG, PIT. CLT has very very low O & D, ala RDU & BNA. "Most profitable" hub, maybe in terms of margin due to very low costs certainly not in raw $$ amounts. "7th busiest airport" Fresno could be the 7th busiest airport if you decide to funnel all your connections through it.
Fresno would be a poor choice for a hub to serve traffic east of the Mississippi, but it would be a much better domicile than PHX.. or CLT for that matter. :D

Smokey23 03-28-2015 07:19 AM
What do your crystal balls show for PHX going forward?

viper548 03-28-2015 08:08 AM
Originally Posted by Smokey23 (Post 1851511)
What do your crystal balls show for PHX going forward?
Too big to move to LAX, too small to add a ton of international. I see it staying put unless they find a way to get a lot more gates at LAX.

MarineGrunt 03-28-2015 08:50 AM
CLT is listed as one of the top ranked cities in the country in terms of growth for 2014. Raleigh is on the list as well. CLT isn't going anywhere.

flybywire44 03-28-2015 11:55 AM
This is anther poorly worded thread title...

Death of CLT? The city is growing and its costs are way under Atlanta's. The scope of its future is unknown, but MIA cannot effectively serve the southeast. Most U.S. sourced traffic does not prefer to fly to MIA to connect to AVL.

LIOG41 03-28-2015 04:21 PM
PHX will outlast CLT.


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