Sliceback

You have to ask the flight office. I've never heard of it being denied. It's a nuisance. But I've been given carte blanche self travel authorization in the past while sick.

Furlough? AA provides more months of pay except for one airline, and has the longest period to come back(seniority retention). The latest furloughees would not have had the right to return at any other airline except for AA.

jcountry

The first step is to fix out *******ed union.

APA is a train wreck. We have to get control of our union if we ever want anything to get better!

(Let's not forget that the union very purposefully went through the east and west contracts-and stripped out ALL the good stuff from each to give us this POS JCBA!)

nimslow

Sounds good on paper, but I don't think there will ever be any unity here. Maybe when the #1 guy or gal is a constructive notice pilot, but even then I doubt it.

Arado 234

I agree! Contrary to AA73 who I respect very much, I do believe the change is due with the group aka individuals and not with the union structure. No more "we have always done it this way", "not invented here? Can't have it then", "gotta move to base" AND "you'll be senior someday, son!".

Is change in the air? I'm afraid to take a peek over on C&R!

Frip

Most ridiculous thing posted here ever

I'm no big fan, but that ain't what happened. As AA was the survivng carrier, The Green Book, specifically the 2012 version, was the basis for the JCBA, and that is how that always works, every time.

Ues, it would have been great to somehow incorporate all the good stuff from the other two contracts into the JCBA, but that is not how the process was outlined in the MOU that y'all voted overwhelmingly in favor of.

Perhaps you shouldn't have, until that was corrected.

7576FO

Ummm, No you sound paranoid. Does anyone believe that APA PURPOSFULLY removed ALL the good stuff form USAir contract?

Yeah, I don't believe that.

Arado 234

Hint: the jumpseat issue. We LOST the jumpseater weight protection.

7576FO

Respectfully they have denied pilot travel while on Extended sick leave. It's rare.
I came home form training one time with a head cold, called in sick for sim ride (called the flt office) no big deal. Easy.

In MIA we had a senior 777 CA in 2014 advanced cancer called and asked the Flight Office if he could go to Europe and say goodbye to friends. CP said No. Chiefs Initials SS.
That CP last year was removed from MIA CP to LAX CP until they found out (accusation) improper use of A pass travel. He was then Fired from LAX CP and retuned to line to Never be a check airman again.

But in general travel while on sick with Flight office approval is granted.


2008 one of my UAL friends did a stand instead furlough. He then asked me for a D3. So does UAL furloughees get 10 years non-travel?

Not totally disagreeing with Sliceback but there are some denials.

7576FO

Programming issue. They did not purposefully go into USAir contract and say this is good, lets remove it.

jcountry

Yeah.

We really capitalized on that....

A JCBA with sub-Mesa work rules is really awesome!

Show me any other major (or pretty much any regional) that doesn't have a freaking min calendar day. '

-There is simply no way to excuse this POS JCBA.

(Who the **** cares what the basis was? That is what negotiations are for. We should have negotiated until we got something with rigs and work rules at least at least the same as your average crappy regional.)