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Arado 234 10-01-2016 02:08 PM

831 surprises ...
 
I just discovered that there is a 12 month base lock. Anybody find other surprises?

Name User 10-01-2016 02:11 PM

News to me as well. Thanks for the heads up.

DCA A321 FO 10-01-2016 02:25 PM


Originally Posted by Arado 234 (Post 2214922)
I just discovered that there is a 12 month base lock. Anybody find other surprises?

For what?............

Arado 234 10-01-2016 02:31 PM


Originally Posted by DCA A321 FO (Post 2214928)
For what?............

like you can't pick up or trade trips while sick.

DCA A321 FO 10-01-2016 02:38 PM


Originally Posted by Arado 234 (Post 2214932)
like you can't pick up or trade trips while sick.

Yep, I picked up on that, what about this base lock thing?

PRS Guitars 10-01-2016 02:46 PM


Originally Posted by DCA A321 FO (Post 2214935)
Yep, I picked up on that, what about this base lock thing?

I think it's an equipment lock in for switching bases, not a base lock in. But I'm not sure. I'm sure Sliceback can explain it. I couldn't find it in 831, rather in the "pilot vacancy bidding" guide under contract support guides.

Name User 10-01-2016 03:07 PM

Wait so does this mean if we switched bases for the last LUS bid effective Jan 2017, all the other bases are unavailable until next year?

Or you can't bid another aircraft for 12 more months?

If so that would suck. I just switched bases for the first time in the Jan bid and planned to bid another type.

Edit just checked mobileFOS under 3* and it doesn't show a lockin exp date. Also there is a note that it's only triggered after SFP.

But, looks like if you switch bases you are locked into that equipment for 12 months.

aa73 10-01-2016 04:57 PM

from slice:

If you bid 'new equipment in a base' (eg 330 MIA? 777 PHL?, 737 PHX/CLT??) you incur a 12 month base lockin even if you don't trigger training.

'New equipment in a base' allows you to break any existing lockin IF your current lockin existed before the 'new equipment' was announced.

Eg, bid 767 in May 2016. Company announces 737 CLT for FEB 2017 this month. You can break the 767 lockin but you'll incur a 24 month equipment lockin and a 12 month base lockin. I'm not sure if you could then MBE out of CLT. In Jan 2017 the company announces 330 MIA for May. You can break the 737 lockin under the 'new equipment in a base' and transfer to the 330 in MIA.
And in Sept 2017 they announce 777 in PHL. Off you go again. And in Dec 2017 they announce 787 in JFK. You can bid that also.

LuckyNow 10-01-2016 04:59 PM

I am not aware of any base lock. I know a guy who works snowbird style. Winters in MIA and summers in the Northeast. Been doing it for years.

Name User 10-01-2016 05:15 PM


Originally Posted by LuckyNow (Post 2215005)
I am not aware of any base lock. I know a guy who works snowbird style. Winters in MIA and summers in the Northeast. Been doing it for years.

Yes you can do that. But let's say you bid from MIA to BOS. You incur a 12 month equipment lock it seems on that base change. So you couldn't bid to another aircraft within 12 months of changing your base. At least that is how I'm reading it.

I dunno, this is so confusing.


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