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Old 12-01-2016, 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Left Handed View Post
Actually it goes:

FO: "What's it doing now?"

CA: "Oh, it's doing that again?"
FO: "Now why the hell is it doing that?"
CA: "I don't know, it does that sometimes."
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Old 12-02-2016, 05:24 AM
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Originally Posted by swaayze View Post
What I meant (please just state it more clearly and/or correctly if I'm wrong or just unclear - not sure if you meant "what are you trying to say" or "wth are you talking about dummy") is that if you hold an input into the stick it will continue to roll (as opposed to a conventional hold-the-wing-down yoke input). IOW to lower the wing in the flare you'd have to give the stick just the right bump then release to neutral, right? Or have I gotten myself totally screwed up on this train of thought?

Just an old noob trying to understand this bird. Thanks for the discussion.
Haha. Just saying it sounds confusing and I'm on the bus.
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Old 12-02-2016, 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Al Czervik View Post
Haha. Just saying it sounds confusing and I'm on the bus.
You ain't kidding I'm on the 330 and flew the small bus a ways back and this thread has me confused as shiit. Haha
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Old 12-02-2016, 01:16 PM
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You ain't kidding I'm on the 330 and flew the small bus a ways back and this thread has me confused as shiit. Haha
Confused...it has me terrified....
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Old 12-02-2016, 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by fartsarefunny View Post
Confused...it has me terrified....
Hahaha! It's not that bad.....
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Old 12-02-2016, 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Al Czervik View Post
Haha. Just saying it sounds confusing and I'm on the bus.
No kidding, I've flown the 320 series and the A300/310 and reading some of this stuff has my head spinning although I understand it. Excepting the 321 since I've never flown it, I thought the 320 and 300 flew pretty similarly overall. The biggest differences were the power of the 300, the 319/320 were slicker and easier to get a greaser in. As far as Xwinds go, Airbus' just require a whole lot less rudder pedal movement to get the equivalent rudder movement vs a Boeing.

On the FBW Busses, I understood the technical reasons why the stick ends up neutral after you put the aileron input(s) in a crosswind, but it never really bothered me. Guess I'm a simpleton, but I just looked out the window and if what I was doing gave me the picture I wanted I was happy. FWIW, the 300 doesn't require as much aileron input as the Boeings I've flown either unless you want to make life interesting. The biggest crosswind gotcha for me initially was that the ailerons go into direct law once you touch down so if you don't add some aileron the wing is gonna come up quickly especially since the plane is a lot taller than a 737.

Bottom line on all these planes is that they can only make you a bad pilot if you let them.
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Old 12-02-2016, 06:16 PM
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Originally Posted by andrewtac View Post
Can you repost, didn't work. I tried to copy and paste the link and remove the first http and it still didn't work. I am very interested in why you can't wing down top rudder this airplane, never got a good explanation. I have flown other roll rate command aircraft, and it was extremely easy. It made task that were almost impossible child's play.

Most of my life I have been a crab kicker and think the crosswind landings in the bus are fairly easy as long as I remember to fly it like as a rate command aircraft; avoid the pup tendency when it gets gusty. I do think it could be easier with wing down top rudder
Didn't work from my mobile device. I'll try again from my computer tomorrow.
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Old 12-03-2016, 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Arado 234 View Post
Didn't work from my mobile device. I'll try again from my computer tomorrow.
You had too many http's in your link.

http://www.airbus.com/fileadmin/medi...LAND-SEQ05.pdf


Nothing earth shattering in the article.
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Old 12-03-2016, 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by CamYZ125 View Post
You had too many http's in your link.

http://www.airbus.com/fileadmin/medi...LAND-SEQ05.pdf


Nothing earth shattering in the article.
I agree. A crosswind is a crosswind. Thanks for the correct posting of the link.
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Originally Posted by CamYZ125 View Post
You had too many http's in your link.

http://www.airbus.com/fileadmin/medi...LAND-SEQ05.pdf


Nothing earth shattering in the article.
Thanks, what I figured. It can be done. At 30 it's xwind approaching control power limit and a possible pod strike if you needed to add more input for either for a gust. It was good to see the reverse thrust effects in a crab as well. I remember going off the runway in the sim doing that.
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