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Old 06-27-2017, 06:46 AM
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Originally Posted by viper548 View Post
Airlines usually use FOs for ground instructors, FTD instructors and sometimes sim instructors.
Some do, I guess. Ours used only captains.
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Old 07-10-2017, 06:09 AM
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Two hopefully easy questions:

1) Do you get per diem during training? Indoc, sim, etc.?

2) Is your pay date based on completion of sim or IOE?
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Old 07-10-2017, 07:30 AM
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1) Yes. From Day 1 to last day of sims.

2) Pay date is Day 1 of Indoc. Seniority for Year 2 pay is based on the estimated completion date of sim training. You will get your aircraft assignment and training start date and that will come with a graduation date. That date will be your date for year 2 pay. It will not change regardless of if your training gets delayed.
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Old 07-10-2017, 05:31 PM
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Hi, didn't want to start a new thread and I'm not seeing it addressed in any other threads....what bases are currently most jr/senior?
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Old 07-10-2017, 10:32 PM
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Originally Posted by tattooguy21 View Post
Hi, didn't want to start a new thread and I'm not seeing it addressed in any other threads....what bases are currently most jr/senior?


7400 FO's total at AAL.

7400 is 737 LGA
7399 is 190 PHL
7373 is 320 LGA
7334 is 737 MIA
7286 is 320 LAX
7289 is 320 DC
7188 is 737 LAX
7176 is 320 CLT
7144 is 737 DC
7087 is 320 MIA.

All of these pilots were hired in 2017.
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Old 07-11-2017, 03:01 AM
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Originally Posted by clandestine View Post
2) Pay date is Day 1 of Indoc. Seniority for Year 2 pay is based on the estimated completion date of sim training.
This is no longer the case. There's a November 2015 LOA that swaps these definitions for anybody hired after that date.

Classification (CLAS) date "is assigned based on the date a pilot is first scheduled to complete initial new hire training with the Company....is used to determine pay level and the timing of advancement to succeeding pay levels."

Occupational (OCC) Date "shall be equal to their American Airlines, pilot, Date of Hire...All pilots with the same occupational date will be assigned seniority numbers by age, with the oldest pilot receiving the most senior number and the youngest pilot the most junior number. Occupational seniority is used for determining placement on the Pilot System Seniority list and for bidding purposes."
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Old 07-11-2017, 04:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Clint View Post
This is no longer the case. There's a November 2015 LOA that swaps these definitions for anybody hired after that date.

Classification (CLAS) date "is assigned based on the date a pilot is first scheduled to complete initial new hire training with the Company....is used to determine pay level and the timing of advancement to succeeding pay levels."

Occupational (OCC) Date "shall be equal to their American Airlines, pilot, Date of Hire...All pilots with the same occupational date will be assigned seniority numbers by age, with the oldest pilot receiving the most senior number and the youngest pilot the most junior number. Occupational seniority is used for determining placement on the Pilot System Seniority list and for bidding purposes."
I think that's what he's saying above.

Also, this system is dumb.
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Old 07-11-2017, 09:30 AM
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Originally Posted by airboss View Post
7400 FO's total at AAL.

7400 is 737 LGA
7399 is 190 PHL
7373 is 320 LGA
7334 is 737 MIA
7286 is 320 LAX
7289 is 320 DC
7188 is 737 LAX
7176 is 320 CLT
7144 is 737 DC
7087 is 320 MIA.

All of these pilots were hired in 2017.
How about ORD and DFW?
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Old 07-11-2017, 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted by ORDinary View Post
How about ORD and DFW?


Ord 737 is 6669
DFW 320 is 6564
DFW 737 is 6526
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Old 07-11-2017, 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by airboss View Post
Ord 737 is 6669
DFW 320 is 6564
DFW 737 is 6526
How about PHL 320 please.

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