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01-05-2019, 05:01 PM

#421

biigD

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Ground power? I’m sorry - I fly out of JFK. I’m unaware of this ‘ground power’ you guys speak of.

01-06-2019, 07:32 AM

#422

Name User

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Ground power? I’m sorry - I fly out of JFK. I’m unaware of this ‘ground power’ you guys speak of.

Ha. Yeah. I think eventually it will become a regulatory requirement like over in Europe. I mean it really doesn't make sense to run APUs when suitable electric power and and air is (potentially) available. It's just wasteful both $ wise and emissions wise.

01-07-2019, 04:21 PM

#423

RegionalFO

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Anybody have any idea how junior the 7576 will go on this bid? Just looking for guesstimates.

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01-07-2019, 04:57 PM

#424

PRS Guitars

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Anybody have any idea how junior the 7576 will go on this bid? Just looking for guesstimates.

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I think it will go very jr and there will be vacancies left, which will lead to new hires getting it his spring. Just a guess though.

01-07-2019, 06:30 PM

#425

Saabs

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Anybody have any idea how junior the 7576 will go on this bid? Just looking for guesstimates.

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Dying bid. Not important to new hires

01-07-2019, 08:02 PM

#426

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I don't think that would be a good idea.

if you lose a gen in flight you are now single gen instead of starting up the APU
unable to MEL a gen or component such as CSD
an electric starter would pull a huge amp draw, think about your typical car battery rated for 500+ amps (12v) but has an alternator in the 150 amp range. You'd need to upgrade the ground power units to add either a battery or large capacitor.
you could use a battery but that would then also add weight on the airplane
if ground power is out you'd need a big GPU to handle the load
shutdown off the gate, cheaper to run APU vs an engine

Pretty sure the 787 is this. I’m told it uses starter generators.

01-08-2019, 07:27 AM

#427

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Pretty sure the 787 is this. I’m told it uses starter generators.

And it still has an APU. As for starting the engine at the gate without the APU, I don't believe that is possible, it draws too much current. So much in fact you need two large GPUs to start without an APU.

But, a smaller 737 sized aircraft may not need nearly as much current draw.

03-12-2019, 07:22 PM

#428

BOGSAT

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Aug bid - place your bets.

Where will the jr Gp 2 Capt numbers fall? Gp 4 FO?

03-13-2019, 08:27 AM

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Aug bid - place your bets.

Where will the jr Gp 2 Capt numbers fall? Gp 4 FO?

On this one? Probably nothing impressive. It's a one-month bid, simply to clear up the training backlog. We'll see a lot more movement in the fall/winter/spring.

03-14-2019, 07:47 AM

#430

viper548

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Where is everyone getting that this is a one month bid? The previous bid was for June, this one is for Aug. It says on page one training starting June and July.
It's a small bid because they want all hands on deck for summer flying.

I'll guess Group 4 FO 11,000, group 2 CA 11,800