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jrav8r
02-27-2017, 01:29 PM
Wondering if I could get some information on Ravn/Corvus, upgrade, QOL, etc?


Paid2fly
02-27-2017, 05:08 PM
Wondering if I could get some information on Ravn/Corvus, upgrade, QOL, etc?







Nope...












:eek:

:D

fishbait32
02-27-2017, 10:19 PM
Here you go: https://ravncrews.com/?p=newPilots

According to the Airline Pilot Central airline page for Ravn, it says the most junior captain was in June 2011... So 6 year upgrade which sounds about right. They are advertising 41k FO pay. Management for Hageland said we get 15k cash bonus paid out every 4 months in 5k increments. They mentioned Corvus FO's are eligible for it too. All you need to get it is ATP minimums.

Ravn/Corvus is great if you want to live in Anchorage and be home every night. Its all day trips out to the villages and then back to Anchorage at the end. Hageland is the highest paying 135 company in the U.S as far as I'm aware of. Corvus pays really well, I believe 41k FO pay. Plus now the 15k cash bonus each year. (You may have to ask their chief pilot about it and see how long it lasts for)

I've talked with a few Corvus guys that have mentioned other captains getting hired straight to Alaska Airlines from there. But the 5 to 6 year upgrade time isn't the best in the world. Even if they do pay a lot, quality of life trumps pay especially dealing with Anchorage / Alaska.


ROCKETM8
10-26-2017, 03:23 AM
Wondering if I could get some information on Ravn/Corvus, upgrade, QOL, etc?

PM me if still interested

tengssuuciurta
10-28-2017, 08:58 PM
FO pay is 45k plus our 15k retention bonus. The most junior upgrade is around 4.5 years right now.

DiveAndDrive
03-21-2018, 06:36 AM
Any updated info? Iím asking specifically for the 121 Dash 8 operation. Is upgrade still sitting at around 4-5 years? What are the odds of going from Dash 8 PIC to a legacy? How is the commutability? Who do you have jumpseat agreements with? With all three certificates sharing a master seniority list, is there a chance I would be displaced to the 135 operation? How is the training?

Thanks in advance. :)

clearandcold
05-09-2018, 06:01 AM
Iíve heard Ravn is looking to cut cost due to financial performance last year and 1st quarter 2018. Do anyone know if pilot pay is going to change?

Ak1900
05-09-2018, 08:33 AM
last upgrade in the Dash was hired 4-5 years ago, but with the insane amount of movement at the company I would not be surprised to see the upgrade fall to 2-2.5 years. Non-commutable but you are home every night.. In CASS, jumpseat agreements with everyone. No chance of displacement to the 135 side. The training program is very good.

Also FO pay was increased recently from 50hr to 60hr with a 70hr guarantee. 15k bonus is still being offered by the company. Anytime over 75 is paid at 1.25..

blindfayth
05-09-2018, 12:54 PM
last upgrade in the Dash was hired 4-5 years ago, but with the insane amount of movement at the company I would not be surprised to see the upgrade fall to 2-2.5 years. Non-commutable but you are home every night.. In CASS, jumpseat agreements with everyone. No chance of displacement to the 135 side. The training program is very good.

Also FO pay was increased recently from 50hr to 60hr with a 70hr guarantee. 15k bonus is still being offered by the company. Anytime over 75 is paid at 1.25..

Dang that's really good.

deftone
05-09-2018, 08:29 PM
Iíve heard Ravn is looking to cut cost due to financial performance last year and 1st quarter 2018. Do anyone know if pilot pay is going to change?

Pay was cut a few weeks ago. 15-20% depending on airframe/seat. There is more info in the thread in the 135 section of the forum. The Chief Pilot just left also.

blindfayth
05-09-2018, 09:00 PM
Pay was cut a few weeks ago. 15-20% depending on airframe/seat. There is more info in the thread in the 135 section of the forum. The Chief Pilot just left also.

So the 135 side took a hit, and the 121 side got a pay raise? Am I reading everything correctly?

BushBuster69
05-09-2018, 10:45 PM
So the 135 side took a hit, and the 121 side got a pay raise? Am I reading everything correctly?

Yes.

Filler.

Rangi
05-10-2018, 07:20 AM
with the insane amount of movement at the company.. ..

How come?

Hardly anyone let go of the left when I was there, and if they did the replacements came in from H6 and bumped everyone down in seniority. Unless H6 is running out of 10+ year folks, what has changed? Why the attrition?

Ak1900
05-10-2018, 11:37 AM
How come?

Hardly anyone let go of the left when I was there, and if they did the replacements came in from H6 and bumped everyone down in seniority. Unless H6 is running out of 10+ year folks, what has changed? Why the attrition?

Lots of captains leaving for Alaska / Atlas / ABX. 7/8 last year, 5 or so this year so far.

tengssuuciurta
05-10-2018, 02:08 PM
Lots of captains leaving for Alaska / Atlas / ABX. 7/8 last year, 5 or so this year so far.

FOs are going to Atlas as well.

Akpilot07
05-13-2018, 09:15 AM
Donít go to Ravn. Itís a sinking ship. Moral is ridiculously low. Upgrades in the Dash are still in the 4-5yr range. They cut everyoneís pay except Dash 8 FO pay. Captains took between a 6-21k pay cut. QOL isnít that great. Considering how expensive it is to live in Anchorage, the pay wasnít that fantastic to begin with and now itís unjustifiable to stay. They are still losing pilots and employees from all groups like crazy. They have captains going to other regionals in the lower 48 to get out and first officers going wherever they can. Some are even getting out of the industry all together.

A ramper wrote this last week right before they quit on the spot. Sums everything up pretty well:

Morale is at an alarmingly low rate. 2/3rds of our mission statement is disregarded by the company. Employee pride is minimally existent. Customer satisfaction is rampantly on the decline. If you bring up these issues, youíre labeled a bad seed that is just negative or unprofessional.. regardless of how well you word it.

Cut hours, false promises, increasingly added duties without any incentive. Leaders that do not promote growth in employees but rather belittle them behind their backs out of fear.

Ravn has intelligent, hard-working employees who have sacrificed a lot for this company. Many of which actually used to really enjoy working here. Many of which are under-appreciated and taken for granted because weíre all replaceable. If you want a company based on the ability to be replaced, all youíll ever have is nameless/faceless people because they will be always changing.

Ground crew, pilots, flight attendants etc., people in the field doing the work are the front lines. We have been bled and bruised and when we turn to ask for support from our leaders, weíre just pushed further into the battlefield. When is it time to stop marching and demand competency & compassion from our leadership?

I'm saying what countless employees feel, but who arenít in a position to speak up. Iím young, ambitious, intelligent and hard-working.. and Iíll be damned if I continue to waste it on a company that doesnít provide any proof that it cares.

Constructive criticism is an important tool for a leader to establish positive growth in an employee. Discretely bashing them not only derails the boundaries of trust, but also exposes a serious flaw in the character of the leader. Just to be clear, these feelings are not stemming from my current manager.

Great leadership would never sacrifice the people to save the numbers. They would sooner sacrifice the numbers to save the people.

Much love and respect to my friends across the company. Best of luck.

clearandcold
05-13-2018, 11:05 AM
They have captains going to other regionals in the lower 48 to get out and first officers going wherever they can. Some are even getting out of the industry all together.

Seems like a strange time to get out of aviation if you are a pilot.

blindfayth
05-14-2018, 09:10 AM
Donít go to Ravn. Itís a sinking ship. Moral is ridiculously low. Upgrades in the Dash are still in the 4-5yr range. They cut everyoneís pay except Dash 8 FO pay. Captains took between a 6-21k pay cut.

I'm not saying you're wrong, but looking at the pay scale for corvus, it looks like Year 1 captains make $95/hr, year 4 is $101/hr.

Is that a 6-21k pay cut?

Or are you talking about captains on the 135 side taking a 6-21k pay cut? Seems like the Corvus (121) side is doing fine, pay wise, isn't it?

I have no idea, though. I'm just an outsider looking in.

tengssuuciurta
05-14-2018, 02:11 PM
Donít go to Ravn. Itís a sinking ship. Moral is ridiculously low. Upgrades in the Dash are still in the 4-5yr range. They cut everyoneís pay except Dash 8 FO pay. Captains took between a 6-21k pay cut. QOL isnít that great. Considering how expensive it is to live in Anchorage, the pay wasnít that fantastic to begin with and now itís unjustifiable to stay. They are still losing pilots and employees from all groups like crazy. They have captains going to other regionals in the lower 48 to get out and first officers going wherever they can. Some are even getting out of the industry all together.

A ramper wrote this last week right before they quit on the spot. Sums everything up pretty well:

Morale is at an alarmingly low rate. 2/3rds of our mission statement is disregarded by the company. Employee pride is minimally existent. Customer satisfaction is rampantly on the decline. If you bring up these issues, youíre labeled a bad seed that is just negative or unprofessional.. regardless of how well you word it.

Cut hours, false promises, increasingly added duties without any incentive. Leaders that do not promote growth in employees but rather belittle them behind their backs out of fear.

Ravn has intelligent, hard-working employees who have sacrificed a lot for this company. Many of which actually used to really enjoy working here. Many of which are under-appreciated and taken for granted because weíre all replaceable. If you want a company based on the ability to be replaced, all youíll ever have is nameless/faceless people because they will be always changing.

Ground crew, pilots, flight attendants etc., people in the field doing the work are the front lines. We have been bled and bruised and when we turn to ask for support from our leaders, weíre just pushed further into the battlefield. When is it time to stop marching and demand competency & compassion from our leadership?

I'm saying what countless employees feel, but who arenít in a position to speak up. Iím young, ambitious, intelligent and hard-working.. and Iíll be damned if I continue to waste it on a company that doesnít provide any proof that it cares.

Constructive criticism is an important tool for a leader to establish positive growth in an employee. Discretely bashing them not only derails the boundaries of trust, but also exposes a serious flaw in the character of the leader. Just to be clear, these feelings are not stemming from my current manager.

Great leadership would never sacrifice the people to save the numbers. They would sooner sacrifice the numbers to save the people.

Much love and respect to my friends across the company. Best of luck.
I thought the letter was dumb. If making lasting changes is someone's goal, nobody at management is going to care about some poorly written letter from a ramper who quit.

blindfayth
05-16-2018, 09:11 AM
What also seems weird is that one has to pay for ATP/CTP out of pocket first, and then they reimburse you 5000 (which I'm guessing will be taxed) after you finish IOE.

tengssuuciurta
05-16-2018, 03:05 PM
What also seems weird is that one has to pay for ATP/CTP out of pocket first, and then they reimburse you 5000 (which I'm guessing will be taxed) after you finish IOE.

The reimbursement is not taxed.

clearandcold
05-17-2018, 08:41 PM
What also seems weird is that one has to pay for ATP/CTP out of pocket first, and then they reimburse you 5000 (which I'm guessing will be taxed) after you finish IOE.

Doesnít seem that weird to me. If I had to guess they are looking for you to have a little skin in the game.

TXWarEagle
08-23-2018, 08:42 AM
Now Corvus is offering a $10,000 new hire bonus for pilots currently holding an ATP certificate. Along with that they've added a $5000 relocation reimbursement for new hire pilots from outside the Anchorage area.

And they now have a "Junior Captain Program" which "offers PIC flying and PIC pay for qualified applicants holding First Officer Seniority" … whatever that means.

Baradium
08-23-2018, 05:12 PM
Now Corvus is offering a $10,000 new hire bonus for pilots currently holding an ATP certificate. Along with that they've added a $5000 relocation reimbursement for new hire pilots from outside the Anchorage area.

And they now have a "Junior Captain Program" which "offers PIC flying and PIC pay for qualified applicants holding First Officer Seniority" Ö whatever that means.

Maybe the captain wings come in the form of a sticker?

My guess would be it means dual qualified FOs until they hold CA through seniority, although dual qualified FOs would reduce the number of Captains required too...

tanker95
09-11-2018, 02:35 PM
Any word if upgrade time has shrunk any or what it is sitting at now? Last I read on here was 6years?!

Thanks

TXWarEagle
09-19-2018, 05:16 PM
Any word if upgrade time has shrunk any or what it is sitting at now? Last I read on here was 6years?!

Thanks

According to their website the most junior Dash captain has been with the company five years.

Ak1900
09-19-2018, 05:41 PM
Down to a 2.5sh yr upgrade, would not be surprised to see it drop more...

TXWarEagle
09-25-2018, 11:14 AM
Down to a 2.5sh yr upgrade, would not be surprised to see it drop more...

What makes you think it will drop more? Are you flying at Ravn Alaska?

clearandcold
10-17-2018, 07:19 PM
Looks like they are now hiring street captains. I guess that means their upgrade time is down to the minimum.

FlyingAlly
10-17-2018, 07:38 PM
Anyone that is currently working for Ravn that can answer some questions for me?

How're your QOL, Equipment, Routes, Benefits, Do you like your job there? Anything you wish the company can improve on? I see that the upgrade times are dropping which is promising but what makes Ravn more appealing to you rather than Horizon or PenAir.

Alaska is on my bucket list with all the outdoor activities that it offers but regionals like Republic and Endeavor in the lower 48 are very enticing with pay and benefits.

Scrwed2
10-28-2018, 11:48 AM
Anyone that is currently working for Ravn that can answer some questions for me?

How're your QOL, Equipment, Routes, Benefits, Do you like your job there? Anything you wish the company can improve on? I see that the upgrade times are dropping which is promising but what makes Ravn more appealing to you rather than Horizon or PenAir.

Alaska is on my bucket list with all the outdoor activities that it offers but regionals like Republic and Endeavor in the lower 48 are very enticing with pay and benefits.



When a company does hire street Capt. It says a lot about how the pilots like the job

GaleHrd
11-10-2018, 10:36 AM
Last month it was announced that Ravn was buying PenAir.
Does anyone know how that will change things at Ravn?
Pay? Benefits? Upgrades? Flight time? Bases?

DenainaPilot
12-24-2018, 05:42 PM
Interesting times ahead in Alaska.
https://www.kdlg.org/post/purchase-finalized-penair-now-officially-part-ravn-air-group



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