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tmick
03-19-2017, 02:30 PM
Hi all,

I'm a couple years out from retiring from the Air Force and my "twilight tour" is flying G-IVs and G-Vs in Germany. Not a bad gig.

I've been giving a lot of thought to life after the Air Force. I'm currently trying to decide between pursuing a corporate flying gig and looking to get hired by a Legacy. The pros and cons of each is a topic for another thread (and one which I'm sure is covered in detail in other threads)... My question is about corporate hiring of prior military pilots.

I had a civilian in my G-IV initial class who said his experience was that corporate flight departments are hesitant to hire military pilots... He was a bit vague on details, but he implied it had to do with the military mindset being a bit too rigid for many corporate flight departments. After searching on this site, I came across a thread from a few years ago that was discussing military hiring in the corporate world.

So, long story short (too late), I'm wondering what the hiring environment is like in the corporate world for military pilots. Thanks in advance for any info!


galaxy flyer
03-19-2017, 03:21 PM
Your experience will be held very highly in corporate ranks. Don't settle for a low grade position-aim for a Gulfstream of Global job but you'll have to be flexible on location. Have you looked at Gulfstream in Savannah?

GF

tmick
03-19-2017, 06:24 PM
I haven't specifically looked at them. I go there every 6 months or so for recurrent training and have contacts at FlightSafety... But flying for Gulfstream seems like it would be a pretty good gig. I have a friend who separated and now flies for Cessna, basically taking potential customers up in their planes to try to get them to buy.


Lucky8888
03-19-2017, 06:30 PM
You shouldn't have any problems. Most of our guys/gals flying our two G650's are ex-military with background similar to yours. JFYI, we pay a little more than NBAA max for the type.

galaxy flyer
03-19-2017, 07:11 PM
tmick,

PM sent with email address

GF

tmick
03-20-2017, 08:12 AM
Thanks for the info, guys! Much obliged.

WingAttackPlanR
03-22-2017, 09:14 AM
I'm retiring from the 89th next month (Gulfstream guy). Our pilots are being headhunted by Fortune 500 companies but most went airlines. Former OSA types shouldn't have an issue but if you have no VIP experience it might be a tougher road. That being said, flight departments will hire for personality and train for the job. You also have to be wiling to move to where the jobs are (KTEB, KVNY, etc). I would make sure you have a membership to Bizjetjobs and attend NBAA if you can. Also, most places fill jobs short notice so being in Germany may be a challenge for interviews.


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tmick
03-23-2017, 07:35 AM
That's great info. Thanks!

HuggyU2
03-23-2017, 07:37 AM
Are you placing a corporate flying job ahead of an airline job? If so, why?

Just curious.

Otters
03-24-2017, 01:51 PM
Thanks for the info, guys! Much obliged.


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tmick
03-25-2017, 05:15 AM
Are you placing a corporate flying job ahead of an airline job? If so, why?

Just curious.

Not necessarily. Just looking at all my options. I've known guys who went one way or the other, and I know guys who've done airlines and then moved to corporate. There's good and bad either way you go.

Depending on where you go, there can be more flexibility in a corporate job, particularly in the earlier years. And the money can still be pretty competitive. The flying can also be more interesting (in the way of destinations). A friend of mine flies for a corporate gig up in the Seattle area... One day he may fly the floatplane up to British Columbia to take the boss on a fishing weekend, the next time he may fly the Citation out to Hawaii.

Bucknut
03-25-2017, 07:09 AM
Just go in to it with a humble attitude and you will do well.

RNO Flyer
08-02-2017, 11:16 AM
I'm still years away from this point, but very interested in corporate/135 flying after the military. Just a quick pile-on question. My aircraft doesn't have a civilian type equivalent. Is that something to be concerned about? If so, would it be worth paying out of pocket for a type rating? I only know one or two folks from my jet who've retired from the military then gone on to the 91/135 world, so my depth of knowledge on this isn't the best.

SetClimbPower
08-02-2017, 11:47 AM
I'm still years away from this point, but very interested in corporate/135 flying after the military. Just a quick pile-on question. My aircraft doesn't have a civilian type equivalent. Is that something to be concerned about? If so, would it be worth paying out of pocket for a type rating? I only know one or two folks from my jet who've retired from the military then gone on to the 91/135 world, so my depth of knowledge on this isn't the best.



Don't pay for your own type rating. Just because you have a type rating doesn't mean you'll find employment with such type. If the employer wants you, he'll train you. Yes, there are tons of employers looking for specific types. They also want you to be current and with 5000 hours. These employers aren't looking for quality. They're looking to hire for cheap and get the best rates on their insurance.


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galaxy flyer
08-02-2017, 07:03 PM
Not having a type rating isn't a problem, RNOFlyer, and, if it was, you wouldn't want the job. I hired a retired 89th, Scott C-40 guy and he worked out fine. Decent jobs will send you to the type school.

GF