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Bilsch
05-05-2017, 04:16 AM
UPS cargo plane crash reported at Yeager Airport | WCHS (http://wchstv.com/news/local/plane-crash-at-yeager-airport)

This is just breaking.

Looking at flight aware, this looks like it may be a contract carrier a (SNC1260) the aircraft is a Shorts 330 operated by Air Cargo Carriers.

https://www.aircar.com/Home.aspx

Moderators feel free to change the thread title since it is misleading as to the actual carrier.


pilot0987
05-05-2017, 04:36 AM
UPS cargo plane crash reported at Yeager Airport | WCHS (http://wchstv.com/news/local/plane-crash-at-yeager-airport)

This is just breaking.

Looking at flight aware, this looks like it may be a contract carrier a (SNC1260) the aircraft is a Short 330 from Air Cargo Carriers.

Moderators feel free to change the thread title since it is misleading as to the actual carrier.

Prayers for the families

Bilsch
05-05-2017, 04:54 AM
Local news and officials are now reporting 2 confirmed dead.

Charleston Gazette-Mail | Early morning plane crash leaves two dead at Yeager Airport (http://www.wvgazettemail.com/news/20170505/early-morning-plane-crash-leaves-two-dead-at-yeager-airport)


Adlerdriver
05-05-2017, 08:19 AM
News is saying they overran and went off the steep end. Obviously I question anything those jokers report but I wondered how that would happen since that end has EMAS.
Then I google earthed it. Yikes. Tailwinds.
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Yeager+Airport,+100+Airport+Rd,+Charleston,+WV+253 11/@38.3698086,-81.6000585,18z/data=!3m1!1e3!4m2!3m1!1s0x8848d4a3bf8942ff:0x17520 29af63e4a86?hl=en

twebb
05-05-2017, 08:25 AM
One report said they landed sideways and hit a wing. RIP

OtterPilot
05-05-2017, 10:03 AM
This from the P.O.S. airport spokesman Mike Pante

"There's nothing particularly challenging about Yeager Airport for a pilot"

Yeager Airport Crash: Two Killed When Cargo Plane Hits Hillside in West Virginia - NBC News (http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/yeager-airport-crash-two-killed-when-cargo-plane-hits-hillside-n755371)

CRW is definitely on my list of the most challenging airports to fly into. The airport sits on top of a mountain!
Coming in from the south you fly very close to a hill top. From the north you fly over a deep canyon and you feel super high. The winds can be tricky. The airport is also frequently covered by low level fog.

None of that should cause a fatal accident, but it IS Challenging.

Twin Wasp
05-05-2017, 11:01 AM
"There's nothing particularly challenging about Yeager Airport for a pilot"

It's on the FAA's 121.445 list so it stands out in their eyes.

navigatro
05-05-2017, 11:38 AM
This from the P.O.S. airport spokesman Mike Pante

"There's nothing particularly challenging about Yeager Airport for a pilot"





"I, myself am a commercial pilot," Mike Plante, the airport spokesperson said

Bilsch
05-05-2017, 11:52 AM
An airport spokesman should not be voicing opinion on an accident. If he has authority to speak, he should have given only factual information about the airport.

Any accident information should be deferred to those investigating.

Information on the crew and fatalities should have been done by local law enforcement, EMS, FAA, NTSB, or coroner.

Flightcap
05-05-2017, 02:40 PM
FAA/NTSB state the aircraft was approaching performing the VOR-A 05. The tower advised ARFF that the left wing had struck the runway and the fuselage went over the hill to the left of the runway. This according to the Aviation Herald. Very sad.

FlyingKat
05-06-2017, 08:37 AM
FAA/NTSB state the aircraft was approaching performing the VOR-A 05. The tower advised ARFF that the left wing had struck the runway and the fuselage went over the hill to the left of the runway. This according to the Aviation Herald. Very sad.

Wonder what the max tailwind on a Shorts 330 are. The winds were 230 @15 gusting to 23 knots.


KCHS 051056Z 23015G23KT 10SM SCT090 21/16 A2958 RMK AO2 PK WND 24028/1027 SLP015 T02110156

Positiveg
05-06-2017, 08:48 AM
Wonder what the max tailwind on a Shorts 330 are. The winds were 230 @15 gusting to 23 knots.


KCHS 051056Z 23015G23KT 10SM SCT090 21/16 A2958 RMK AO2 PK WND 24028/1027 SLP015 T02110156

10kts

Filler

airbus300
05-06-2017, 10:13 AM
Wonder what the max tailwind on a Shorts 330 are. The winds were 230 @15 gusting to 23 knots.


KCHS 051056Z 23015G23KT 10SM SCT090 21/16 A2958 RMK AO2 PK WND 24028/1027 SLP015 T02110156

KCHS is 337 miles away from the accident airport of KCRW. It was calm winds with 100 scattered 500 overcast.

Sam York
05-06-2017, 10:26 AM
Wonder what the max tailwind on a Shorts 330 are. The winds were 230 @15 gusting to 23 knots.


KCHS 051056Z 23015G23KT 10SM SCT090 21/16 A2958 RMK AO2 PK WND 24028/1027 SLP015 T02110156

KCHS is Charleston, SC.

KCRW is Charleston, WV.

http://avherald.com/h?article=4a88f341

Bilsch
05-06-2017, 10:29 AM
Charleston, WV AKA - Charlie West (CRW) is most definitely not Charleston, SC (CHS).

wankel7
05-06-2017, 12:10 PM
FAA/NTSB state the aircraft was approaching performing the VOR-A 05. The tower advised ARFF that the left wing had struck the runway and the fuselage went over the hill to the left of the runway. This according to the Aviation Herald. Very sad.

Was the localizer out? Either way the loc or vor a might not be much help if it was 500 ovc.

Bilsch
05-06-2017, 01:09 PM
Was the localizer out? Either way the loc or vor a might not be much help if it was 500 ovc.

Airport manager said this crew was from CRW, so they were familiar with the airport. Not sure now often that VOR-A approach is used.

There is a LOC for 05:

Rwy 05 ILS/DME I-HCV 110.3 MHz Chan 040X
LOCALIZER OFFSET ANGLE 001 DEG 26 MIN

NOTAMS for RWY 05:

CRW 08/044 CRW RWY 5 THR DISPLACED 578FT. DECLARED DISTANCES: TORA 6802FT TODA 6802FT ASDA 6302FT LDA 5724FT. 1508111752-1

!CRW 07/075 CRW RWY 5 VASI OUT OF SERVICE 1507271200-1707272000

!CRW 07/074 CRW RWY 5 RWY END ID LGT OUT OF SERVICE
1507271200-1707272000

NTSB says they have security video of the approach/accident.

Condolences to the families and friends of the crew from https://www.aircar.com

Bilsch
05-06-2017, 02:03 PM
NTSB briefing from today 5/6/17:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BxJ22jTY6-I

airbus300
05-06-2017, 04:30 PM
No CVR or FDR installed. Not required according to the update.

gnew2
05-06-2017, 05:25 PM
Jonathan worked with us a few years ago. Super friendly and easy going guy. Sad day.

FlyingKat
05-06-2017, 10:38 PM
KCHS is Charleston, SC.

KCRW is Charleston, WV.

Crash: Cargo Carriers SH33 at Charleston on May 5th 2017, wing tip strike on landing (http://avherald.com/h?article=4a88f341)


Sorry about that autofill strikes again. Anybody know what the weather was?

aeroengineer
05-07-2017, 05:50 AM
Sorry about that autofill strikes again. Anybody know what the weather was?

From aviation-safety.net

METAR Weather report:
10:30 UTC / 06:30 local time:
KCRW 051030Z 17004KT 10SM FEW001 OVC005 14/13 A2940 RMK AO2 VLY FG T01390133 $

10:54 UTC / 06:54 local time:
KCRW 051054Z 23003KT 10SM FEW001 OVC005 14/13 A2941 RMK AO2 SLP952 VLY FG T01440133


10:59 UTC / 06:59 local time:
KCRW 051059Z COR 00000KT 10SM FEW001 OVC005 14/13 A2940 RMK AO2 VLY FG T01440133

endlessnight
02-02-2018, 07:49 AM
That VOR-A approach would really suck in bad WX and low vis. Wouldn't even want to try it. I've flown it in a sim a few times. Not a good choice when the Loc 5 is available.



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