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Flyguy4723
05-19-2017, 08:27 AM
Does anybody have any experience with the Airman Trainee Program at Air Wisconsin? Good? Bad? Benefits? Thanks.


BravoPapa
05-22-2017, 02:09 PM
Nobody has done this?

Fleron270
05-22-2017, 04:05 PM
Sounds like pretty easy money to me. You complete an IBT (internet-based training) module once a month, and update your hours with the company. The IBT is supposed to take 2 hours, but can usually be done in much less time. For doing this, you get a bi-weekly salary and travels benefits on AA as well as United in the near future.


Flyguy4723
05-22-2017, 05:43 PM
Sounds like pretty easy money to me. You complete an IBT (internet-based training) module once a month, and update your hours with the company. The IBT is supposed to take 2 hours, but can usually be done in much less time. For doing this, you get a bi-weekly salary and travels benefits on AA as well as United in the near future.

Too good to be true is my thought.

Fleron270
05-22-2017, 05:51 PM
Too good to be true is my thought.

They are just hoping to reel you in to eventually becoming an FO. There is zero commitment to joining AWA as an FO when you do reach your ATP-mins, but they are hoping to have convinced you to come by then.

BravoPapa
05-22-2017, 06:24 PM
They are just hoping to reel you in to eventually becoming an FO. There is zero commitment to joining AWA as an FO when you do reach your ATP-mins, but they are hoping to have convinced you to come by then.

Their way of 'developing' potential hires for them. And I've heard the money is minimal, like $100-$150 a month, so they can legally say you're employed by them and allow the reserving flying.

Flyguy4723
05-22-2017, 07:26 PM
They are just hoping to reel you in to eventually becoming an FO. There is zero commitment to joining AWA as an FO when you do reach your ATP-mins, but they are hoping to have convinced you to come by then.

Their way of 'developing' potential hires for them. And I've heard the money is minimal, like $100-$150 a month, so they can legally say you're employed by them and allow the reserving flying.

Anybody know if the travel benefits are any good? What do "travel benefits" entail? Free flights every how often?

Fleron270
05-23-2017, 05:20 AM
It's for standby/non-revenue travel. The priority is AAC - "Non-wholly owned regional affiliate" or something like that. With United, it will be the same priority as other UAX/United Express carriers.

It's unlimited. You have to pay a $1.50ish fee to list, refunded if you don't make it, and taxes if you go somewhere internationally (usually less than $100). I have had decent luck getting business class going to Europe.

Honestly, the Airman Trainee program is such little work to get the same travel benefits you would get as a pilot (apart from Jumpseat privileges).

BigWillyCapt
05-23-2017, 05:43 AM
There is also a sign-on fee to be enrolled in the travel benefits. $75 for us. But yes, you would get unlimited flights in the American system

Flyguy4723
05-23-2017, 07:21 AM
It's for standby/non-revenue travel. The priority is AAC - "Non-wholly owned regional affiliate" or something like that. With United, it will be the same priority as other UAX/United Express carriers.

It's unlimited. You have to pay a $1.50ish fee to list, refunded if you don't make it, and taxes if you go somewhere internationally (usually less than $100). I have had decent luck getting business class going to Europe.

Honestly, the Airman Trainee program is such little work to get the same travel benefits you would get as a pilot (apart from Jumpseat privileges).

Ok gotcha. So you'd recommend it?

Noleone
06-14-2017, 09:51 AM
Scheduled for the "Airman Trainee" interview soon. What has everyone's experience with this been? How is the written? Is the interview the same as one for an FO position? And for those already in the program, are you seeing a benefit to the training modules? Anything else? Thanks!

Swakid8
06-15-2017, 07:20 AM
Did the interview yesterday in philly. Pretty straight forward. They took us into a room to give us a company overview and to answer questions. Then we took the written. Written was about 12 questions pretty easy if you know your stuff. FOs got the 25 question written. Afterwards they did the 1 on 1 interviews. Interview questions were mainly HR type questions. Then they came back with the offer. If you accept, they will finger print you and drug test you that same day. If you have a laptop, you could stay and do your background check stuff online. I didn't have mines so I did my background check stuff this morning.

They buy lunch and give you a 100 dollar gift card for the troubles of traveling.


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Grabo172
06-15-2017, 02:03 PM
Did the interview yesterday in philly. Pretty straight forward. They took us into a room to give us a company overview and to answer questions. Then we took the written. Written was about 12 questions pretty easy if you know your stuff. FOs got the 25 question written. Afterwards they did the 1 on 1 interviews. Interview questions were mainly HR type questions. Then they came back with the offer. If you accept, they will finger print you and drug test you that same day. If you have a laptop, you could stay and do your background check stuff online. I didn't have mines so I did my background check stuff this morning.

They buy lunch and give you a 100 dollar gift card for the troubles of traveling.


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Is this the only interview you do with AW (i.e. once you meet the hours you go directly to class) or do you have to do another FO interview when you have the min hours?

Flyguy4723
06-15-2017, 04:09 PM
Is this the only interview you do with AW (i.e. once you meet the hours you go directly to class) or do you have to do another FO interview when you have the min hours?

You have to do the technical portion still.

Grabo172
06-15-2017, 05:31 PM
You have to do the technical portion still.

Thanks! Wondering if it would be a good option as I get my last 100 hours... or just go ahead and do the whole FO interview.

T28driver
06-15-2017, 06:45 PM
If you are within a hundred hours I would just do the FO interview. I think you can count your sim time in training towards that if you get the CJO.

OT35
06-18-2017, 06:22 AM
If you are within a hundred hours I would just do the FO interview. I think you can count your sim time in training towards that if you get the CJO.

If you need the multi time you can count 25 hours in the sim towards the 50 hour minimum, thats what one of the guys in my class did.

marcusstcyr21
06-18-2017, 12:36 PM
Did the interview yesterday in philly. Pretty straight forward. They took us into a room to give us a company overview and to answer questions. Then we took the written. Written was about 12 questions pretty easy if you know your stuff. FOs got the 25 question written. Afterwards they did the 1 on 1 interviews. Interview questions were mainly HR type questions. Then they came back with the offer. If you accept, they will finger print you and drug test you that same day. If you have a laptop, you could stay and do your background check stuff online. I didn't have mines so I did my background check stuff this morning.

They buy lunch and give you a 100 dollar gift card for the troubles of traveling.


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I have the interview for airman trainee this coming week. What kind of questions should I expect?

WhiskeyDelta
06-18-2017, 12:39 PM
I have the interview for airman trainee this coming week. What kind of questions should I expect?

How many rivets in the wing of the CL-65?

:D:D

BravoPapa
06-18-2017, 12:46 PM
I have the interview for airman trainee this coming week. What kind of questions should I expect?

Would appreciate a report in here when it's over.

blindfayth
06-18-2017, 09:20 PM
Hey guys (and girls),

First time poster, long time lurker here. I'm a CFII at around 530 hours, and I just interviewed at AWAC about 2 weeks ago for the airman trainee program.

1) They said I was going to be non-revved to PHL to interview, but when I checked in with the AA gate agent, she said there must have been a mix-up, because I had positive space seats, and she handed me my tickets. That was a pleasant surprise.

2) I had to pay for my own hotel in PHL, and while they recommended a couple, I found one on my own that was a 5 minute walk from the building where I would interview for much cheaper (~80$ after fees).

3) All of the applicants gathered in a room together and talked with each other. Everyone was a bit nervous, of course. An AWAC employee came in and gathered everyone's documents that they were supposed to bring, so they could be reviewed to make sure all the paperwork was in order.

4) Next, the PHL Chief pilot came to give a power point presentation about why it was great to work there, handed us a printout of the slides, and then administered a (short) written test for us. The FO test was 25 questions from what I gathered, and the Airman Trainees were given 10 question tests. It was all multiple choice. It ranged from things such as aft vs forward cg effects on performance, runway markings, and reading approach plates (i.e. what is the TDZE on this runway). There was a couple about how to read a TAF, another on max speed under a bravo shelf, etc.

5) After that, they collected the written tests, and started calling in people to interview 1on1 with a 7-year captain, but these were 100% HR questions. Very basic questions for us Airman Trainees. Things like, "What are the 3 most important qualities a professional pilot should possess".

5) After that, I was told to wait in the break room until a decision was made. I was given an offer, asked to sign the CJO that states I'm not committed to join AWAC unless/until I take part in their CTP/ATP course, and was welcomed to the team. They handed me a $100.00 gift card as a way to thank me for my time there. I was not expecting that. I've never been paid for my time to interview before.

6) Next, I had my finger prints taken, and had to do the whiz quiz.

7) They served us pizza for lunch, we all chatted for a bit more, then went our separate ways.

All-in-all, very low stress, and extremely easy.

After I got home, they emailed me another bunch of forms to fill out to complete my background check. They will fly me back in the beginning of July for orientation, and provide both positive space and a hotel. I'm guessing they will also pay me for my time there again, though I'm not expecting them to. Can confirm this later once I go.
Once I finish orientation, I've been told I'm allowed to enroll in their travel benefits program, which would take place about 2 weeks (16 days someone said?) after I enroll. So, I'm looking to gain travel benefits somewhere late July at the earliest.

Hopefully this is helpful to someone.

BravoPapa
06-18-2017, 09:30 PM
Thanks BF! Be sure to keep us updated as you go along.

LUPilot
06-19-2017, 07:52 AM
Blindfayth, that is helpful information!! Keep us posted on what the day-today job functions are. On their website it makes it seem pretty minimal. Pretty easy way to make a few bucks, and get the travel benefits.
I know you said you have 530 hours, and you're just starting the program. I go to one of AWAC's affiliate schools, and by December I'll have my commercial multi, and about 230 TT. On their website, one of the eligibility requirements is written as "Must have 500 hours unless from a partner school or university." As near as I can tell, that means I would be eligible by the end of the year. Do you know how frequently they hire new people for the program? I would love to join the program around January!

BigZ
06-21-2017, 08:27 AM
They will fly me back in the beginning of July for orientation


Hope that works out for you.
I was given the conditional offer May 5, June start day didn't happen, not sure how the July is going to play out (it's the second Monday of the month).
Nothing wrong with the company, but Sterling who does the background check isn't really well versed in anything outside the box.
"That company you indicate you owned, we need a W2" "There's no W2, I owned it, I wasn't employed there" "How about a 1099?" "Here's the company registration for you, annual reports with my name all over them and whatever else I can come up with to show my affiliation with the place for the specified period" ".............hi, I'm the new guy your case was dumped on, can you send me proof that shows you were with the company you indicate you owned?"

Again, nothing against ZW, but there was a mention of a percentage of applicants who don't pass background check in other thread, well that might not necessarily be on the truthfulness of the applicant. I can totally see how that could play out this way especially when you can't get a straight answer on whether the submitted paperwork is sufficient or if there's anything else you could provide.

WhistlePig
06-21-2017, 06:58 PM
Hope that works out for you.
I was given the conditional offer May 5, June start day didn't happen, not sure how the July is going to play out (it's the second Monday of the month).
Nothing wrong with the company, but Sterling who does the background check isn't really well versed in anything outside the box.
"That company you indicate you owned, we need a W2" "There's no W2, I owned it, I wasn't employed there" "How about a 1099?" "Here's the company registration for you, annual reports with my name all over them and whatever else I can come up with to show my affiliation with the place for the specified period" ".............hi, I'm the new guy your case was dumped on, can you send me proof that shows you were with the company you indicate you owned?"

Again, nothing against ZW, but there was a mention of a percentage of applicants who don't pass background check in other thread, well that might not necessarily be on the truthfulness of the applicant. I can totally see how that could play out this way especially when you can't get a straight answer on whether the submitted paperwork is sufficient or if there's anything else you could provide.

If you have to, send them your tax returns...

TransWorld
06-21-2017, 07:34 PM
. . . isn't really well versed in anything outside the box.
"That company you indicate you owned, we need a W2" "There's no W2, I owned it, I wasn't employed there" "How about a 1099?" "Here's the company registration for you, annual reports with my name all over them and whatever else I can come up with to show my affiliation with the place for the specified period" ".............hi, I'm the new guy your case was dumped on, can you send me proof that shows you were with the company you indicate you owned?"

As Jeff Foxworthy says, "Here's Your Sign."

BigZ
06-21-2017, 10:53 PM
If you have to, send them your tax returns...

As it sits right now, I asked ZW to ask Sterling if they need anything else, because I sure couldn't get an answer.

As Jeff Foxworthy says, "Here's Your Sign."

The world isn't perfect and I understand that the people do the minimum they were trained to do for the wages they are paid and all that.. so I'll hold the "Amen" back, but I totally see where you're coming from.

WisJudge
06-22-2017, 05:39 AM
As it sits right now, I asked ZW to ask Sterling if they need anything else, because I sure couldn't get an answer.



The world isn't perfect and I understand that the people do the minimum they were trained to do for the wages they are paid and all that.. so I'll hold the "Amen" back, but I totally see where you're coming from.


No need to provide your corporate tax returns. That information is simply no one's business but your own, and your business partner(s).

I ran into the same thing, Sterling wanted our corporate tax returns for the past 4 years. A deal killer for me.
Scenario: a heavily accented voice from an unknown NY number calls and tells me I "MUST" provide my corporate tax returns "because AW REQUIRES I do so". OK, No red flags there.

I called AW and the simple solution was a letter from our corporate counsel stating I did own my business. I provided an emailed letter to Sterling. Easy solution from AW.

100% of our class had issues with Sterling. Also, 100% of our class immediately began getting loads of spam once we provided information to Sterling, and I'm still getting it on a daily basis.

AW's response was immediate. Several corporate folks came to our class to gather details and hear our personal experiences. AW heard the concerns of our class, they took our concerns seriously, and were equally displeased. My guess is they are in the middle of finding a solution to Sterling. If there are problems, just let the company know. I got the clear impression the folks at corporate wanted the on-boarding experience to be positive for the new hires and they were clearly not pleased to hear of our Sterling experience.

That being said, welcome aboard!

Swakid8
06-23-2017, 03:20 AM
Sterling is a big pain the ass for sure, I will definitely make my comments well know. Whenever I get a opportunity as well. Plus, my current supervisor has dealt with them as well as a few of his other guys went to AWAC and has a displeasure of working with them.


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intherightseat
06-26-2017, 11:29 AM
Sterling has been the bane of my existence - what on earth compelled them to use them? :p

But seriously having to educate them on 1099s, DBAs, EINs, etc... send in pay stubs and W2s because they won't call previous employers to verify ... a real pain. Who have you all been contacting at AirWis about Sterling? I feel like I should give them a ring about my experience as well.


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BigZ
06-30-2017, 12:44 PM
Well, I'm on the waitlist for the July 10 orientation, so heads up - if you're expecting July 10 and haven't received the call yet it is likely to be August 14.
Orientation in Philadelphia, they will fly you in on the 9th, hotel paid for the night, fly you out in the afternoon on the 10th.
Filled out the background check paperwork on May 5th, so figure the process took just shy of two months.

lukeh99
07-03-2017, 07:46 AM
Sterling has been the bane of my existence - what on earth compelled them to use them? :p

But seriously having to educate them on 1099s, DBAs, EINs, etc... send in pay stubs and W2s because they won't call previous employers to verify ... a real pain. Who have you all been contacting at AirWis about Sterling? I feel like I should give them a ring about my experience as well.


Did you ever get this sorted out? I just submitted my background stuff to Sterling (with some self employment in the mix) last week. I went ahead and included W2's, a few signed contracts, 1099's, etc. in the hopes that it would avoid a bunch of back and forth. How long did it take them to let you know they needed more info? Did AW let you know when everything was done?

I need to give notice at work ASAP but I would prefer to wait until the background check is complete if possible. If this thing is going to take a month I might as well just give the notice and hope for the best.

intherightseat
07-03-2017, 11:05 AM
Did you ever get this sorted out? I just submitted my background stuff to Sterling (with some self employment in the mix) last week. I went ahead and included W2's, a few signed contracts, 1099's, etc. in the hopes that it would avoid a bunch of back and forth. How long did it take them to let you know they needed more info? Did AW let you know when everything was done?



I need to give notice at work ASAP but I would prefer to wait until the background check is complete if possible. If this thing is going to take a month I might as well just give the notice and hope for the best.



I ended up just speaking with Lorena and going directly through her. She's awesome (AirWis employee who liaises with Sterl). I wish I could give you her direct extension but I was transferred over and neglected to ask. If you have issues, she's the person to chat with.


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Ultrasweatproof
07-03-2017, 11:17 AM
Hey everyone,

Do the travel benefits extend to any immediate family like a spouse or just the trainee? Also, are they looking for a certain amount of flight time per month? I have a full-time non-aviation job and instruct at night and on weekends. I'm also having a child in October so might take October of from flying. Good luck to all that apply.

FallingWithStyle
07-03-2017, 11:52 AM
Scheduled for the "Airman Trainee" interview soon. What has everyone's experience with this been? How is the written? Is the interview the same as one for an FO position? And for those already in the program, are you seeing a benefit to the training modules? Anything else? Thanks!

I went months ago for the interview and it was the actual interview minus approach plates. Did paperwork, finger prints, everything. Finally got through all that and headed back up because week for indoc. Excited for the flight benefits and basically once you hit mins, you can be an FO since the interview is already complete!

FallingWithStyle
07-03-2017, 11:56 AM
Blindfayth, that is helpful information!! Keep us posted on what the day-today job functions are. On their website it makes it seem pretty minimal. Pretty easy way to make a few bucks, and get the travel benefits.
I know you said you have 530 hours, and you're just starting the program. I go to one of AWAC's affiliate schools, and by December I'll have my commercial multi, and about 230 TT. On their website, one of the eligibility requirements is written as "Must have 500 hours unless from a partner school or university." As near as I can tell, that means I would be eligible by the end of the year. Do you know how frequently they hire new people for the program? I would love to join the program around January!

If you have anyone who has any connection to airwis, use it. The 500hr rule is flexible. I know someone who got in at 250

diverdriver2
07-03-2017, 12:40 PM
Hey everyone,

Do the travel benefits extend to any immediate family like a spouse or just the trainee? Also, are they looking for a certain amount of flight time per month? I have a full-time non-aviation job and instruct at night and on weekends. I'm also having a child in October so might take October of from flying. Good luck to all that apply.

If you are up front with them they will work with you. Sorry that's not a specific answer but ask the team when you interview.

Swakid8
07-03-2017, 05:10 PM
Well, I'm on the waitlist for the July 10 orientation, so heads up - if you're expecting July 10 and haven't received the call yet it is likely to be August 14.

Orientation in Philadelphia, they will fly you in on the 9th, hotel paid for the night, fly you out in the afternoon on the 10th.

Filled out the background check paperwork on May 5th, so figure the process took just shy of two months.



Who did you speak with to get this sorted, I am going to make some calls after the holiday to check my status


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BigZ
07-03-2017, 05:34 PM
Who did you speak with to get this sorted, I am going to make some calls after the holiday to check my status


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I talked to Katrina about that since she was my primary point of contact HR-wise from before the interview. So basically whoever it is you are working with

calico
07-06-2017, 05:32 AM
I went months ago for the interview and it was the actual interview minus approach plates. Did paperwork, finger prints, everything. Finally got through all that and headed back up because week for indoc. Excited for the flight benefits and basically once you hit mins, you can be an FO since the interview is already complete!

You still have to do the same technical interview once you reach ATP mins.

intherightseat
07-13-2017, 03:36 PM
Anybody headed to the aug 15 orientation?


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BigZ
07-13-2017, 09:58 PM
Anybody headed to the aug 15 orientation?


I'll give it a shot if I can arrange time off at work. Bump off to the next month if not

Swakid8
07-16-2017, 02:50 AM
Anybody headed to the aug 15 orientation?


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I will be there


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triandfly
07-18-2017, 05:11 AM
I will be there


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If you don't mind my asking, when did you guys interview for an Aug 14 orientation?
Any "gotcha" questions to be aware of or suggestions of things to study?

intherightseat
07-18-2017, 06:16 AM
It took two months for my background check paperwork to clear - everything in the interview was as straight forward and standard as it gets -- just be relaxed, comfortable and yourself. Remember, part of what they're looking for is somebody they can spend four days with in a 200.


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Swakid8
07-19-2017, 02:45 AM
If you don't mind my asking, when did you guys interview for an Aug 14 orientation?

Any "gotcha" questions to be aware of or suggestions of things to study?



I interviewed June 14th and it took about a month for my background to clear. I missed out on Julys orientation because it was full.


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Swakid8
07-19-2017, 02:45 AM
If you don't mind my asking, when did you guys interview for an Aug 14 orientation?

Any "gotcha" questions to be aware of or suggestions of things to study?



No gotcha questions, just a pretty straight forward HR interview.


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Chet Manley
08-07-2017, 01:05 PM
Does anyone know the attire is, and what the actual orientation consists of?

BigZ
08-07-2017, 07:34 PM
Does anyone know the attire is, and what the actual orientation consists of?

Here's a quote from HR

Dress for NHO is business casual as you will already have your ID badge.


To me that looks more like "no shorts and flip flops" than "no suit and tie" but ymmv

Flyguy4723
08-18-2017, 02:24 PM
Anybody that went to orientation, want to share their experience? Thanks.

BigZ
08-18-2017, 07:19 PM
Anybody that went to orientation, want to share their experience? Thanks.

Fill out some paperwork, eat pizza, listen to the drug and alcohol presentation.
Get your ID. Do the initial logon/pass change on the company computer. Can't think of anything else.

Swakid8
08-19-2017, 09:41 AM
Fill out some paperwork, eat pizza, listen to the drug and alcohol presentation.

Get your ID. Do the initial logon/pass change on the company computer. Can't think of anything else.


Pretty much this, I wonder if they will pay us for the orientation though.


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BigZ
08-19-2017, 09:45 AM
Pretty much this, I wonder if they will pay us for the orientation though.


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OMG you got to touch the holliest of hollies of aviation - an airline! and you talk about money. What's the matter with you

Yes tgey will. 8hrs at $50 if I remember right

Grumbletrousers
08-19-2017, 01:03 PM
Pretty much this, I wonder if they will pay us for the orientation though.


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Boy, times have changed

Swakid8
08-19-2017, 01:41 PM
Boy, times have changed



Yes they have hence is why I timed my military separation out perfectly


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Flyguy4723
08-19-2017, 03:48 PM
Fill out some paperwork, eat pizza, listen to the drug and alcohol presentation.
Get your ID. Do the initial logon/pass change on the company computer. Can't think of anything else.

Did they set you up with the flight benefits? Do we know if these are on United or American yet?

BigZ
08-19-2017, 04:37 PM
Did they set you up with the flight benefits? Do we know if these are on United or American yet?

Either till the end of the year, thence United

squib
08-23-2017, 08:01 PM
Yes they have hence is why I [was born at the right time] timed my military separation out perfectly


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Fixed it for you.

Paid2fly
08-24-2017, 10:48 PM
Fixed it for you.







Exactly!!!

Swakid8
08-25-2017, 04:30 AM
Fixed it for you.

And how old are you again? If I timed my birth in the early 80s then you are correct then! I only decided to switch careers because I saw the direction of this industry was headed, otherwise, I would have stayed in finished out 11 more years in the Navy to retire at 20.

squib
08-25-2017, 07:39 AM
And how old are you again? If I timed my birth in the early 80s then you are correct then! I only decided to switch careers because I saw the direction of this industry was headed, otherwise, I would have stayed in finished out 11 more years in the Navy to retire at 20.

Woah early 80's, we got a tough guy here. Relax "kid". Clearly some people got it. You will probably be the typical military guy that everyone hates to fly with that doesn't know how to talk on the radio. Or you might be paired with another military guy and half your conversation will be on 121.5.

Swakid8
08-25-2017, 11:47 AM
Woah early 80's, we got a tough guy here. Relax "kid". Clearly some people got it. You will probably be the typical military guy that everyone hates to fly with that doesn't know how to talk on the radio. Or you might be paired with another military guy and half your conversation will be on 121.5.



Naw, I am cool. You'll see one day lol


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Swakid8
08-25-2017, 11:48 AM
Naw, I am cool. Yule-C see one day lol


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Flyguy4723
09-10-2017, 09:48 AM
Anybody know if we get any buddy passes/relatives? Thanks

StrykerB21
09-10-2017, 10:37 AM
Anybody know if we get any buddy passes/relatives? Thanks

Nope. Buddy passes went away a few years back.

Flyguy4723
09-10-2017, 10:45 AM
Nope. Buddy passes went away a few years back.

Do we get a travel companion? I heard parents might also get travel benefits...?

Swakid8
09-10-2017, 12:11 PM
Do we get a travel companion? I heard parents might also get travel benefits...?


You, wife or significant other, mom and dad but it cost money to sign each traveler up.


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Flyguy4723
09-10-2017, 01:02 PM
You, wife or significant other, mom and dad but it cost money to sign each traveler up.


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Alright thanks. It says we are supposed to bring in a voided check for direct deposit. Is that mandatory or can we just bring in our bank routing/accounts #'s?

pitchtrim
09-10-2017, 01:05 PM
You get 2 travel companions with United. 100 bucks if I recall for the 2nd girlfriend.

maquinist
09-10-2017, 03:03 PM
Alright thanks. It says we are supposed to bring in a voided check for direct deposit. Is that mandatory or can we just bring in our bank routing/accounts #'s?



Yeah you can just bring in your numbers. I didn't bring in a check, just wrote in the account info on the required forms.


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Flyguy4723
09-10-2017, 04:06 PM
You get 2 travel companions with United. 100 bucks if I recall for the 2nd girlfriend.

100 bucks everytime or 100 bucks to signup?

BigZ
09-10-2017, 05:27 PM
100 per year for the second friend

Not true about just the numbers. Needs to be a voided check or direct deposit authorization form from the bank

Flyguy4723
09-13-2017, 09:25 AM
Anybody use the flight benefits for United yet? Looks like we have pretty low boarding priority...

squib
09-13-2017, 11:47 AM
100 per year for the second friend


The $100 was prorated for the end of 2017.

Fees for 2018 are:

Annual non-refundable enrollment fees:
- $50 for employee
- $50 for each eligible traveler (Parents, Spouse, Domestic Partner, Enrolled friend in lieu of spouse or domestic partner.)
- $200 for additional enrolled friend (everyone eligible for second friend)

Base segment fees for Parents and Enrolled Friends $25 domestic/ $50 international.

Enrolled friends subject to imputed income.

BigZ
09-13-2017, 01:19 PM
Anybody use the flight benefits for United yet? Looks like we have pretty low boarding priority...

SA5
Definitely far from awesome, but I'm told the AA priority was worse.

Flyguy4723
09-13-2017, 01:51 PM
SA5
Definitely far from awesome, but I'm told the AA priority was worse.

At least we beat out the buddy passes... Also, is it true we have to wait 16 days before we can use the benefits? I've heard through the grapevine that they can be used earlier...

FODhopper
09-13-2017, 05:39 PM
At least we beat out the buddy passes... Also, is it true we have to wait 16 days before we can use the benefits? I've heard through the grapevine that they can be used earlier...

You won't need the travel benefits the first 16 days or the first 2 months... You will be too busy studying... That is the mindset you need.

Flyguy4723
09-13-2017, 06:10 PM
You won't need the travel benefits the first 16 days or the first 2 months... You will be too busy studying... That is the mindset you need.

Studying for...

squib
09-13-2017, 06:37 PM
You won't need the travel benefits the first 16 days or the first 2 months... You will be too busy studying... That is the mindset you need.

This is the Airman trainee program/intern thread. No need to worry about studying for anything.

Swakid8
09-15-2017, 02:43 AM
Studying for...



Studying to build your time lol apparently. Naw there isn't anything to study for airmen trainee, but we have nodules that are due within The next 10 days.


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FODhopper
09-15-2017, 04:30 AM
This is the Airman trainee program/intern thread. No need to worry about studying for anything.

Fair enough...I agree I was incorrect about the studying. But I don't agree with the whining about having to wait 16 days.

reid
11-18-2017, 08:36 PM
I attended the Airman Trainee interview in Chicago two days ago. Blindfayth's write up from June 18th of this year is still pretty much spot on. There were around a dozen candidates all together, about half airman trainees and half first officers. I think all but one person was offered a position.

tonsterboy5
11-27-2017, 06:35 PM
Does anyone know if you still receive new hire bonuses if you participate in the trainee program?

StrykerB21
11-27-2017, 06:55 PM
Does anyone know if you still receive new hire bonuses if you participate in the trainee program?

Yes you do.

DiamondDriver
12-20-2017, 07:35 PM
Is anyone attending the Airmen Trainee interview tomorrow in Chicago? I know they had one today and also have one tomorrow, which I will be attending.

Best

tonsterboy5
01-01-2018, 07:30 PM
Is anyone attending the Airmen Trainee interview tomorrow in Chicago? I know they had one today and also have one tomorrow, which I will be attending.

Best

How did your interview go? Iím thinking about applying.

pilotAE
01-31-2018, 11:26 PM
I was just interviewing with Airwis for an FO but I got the details for airmen trainee, basically all you need to do is call a pilot recruiter and gibe him your hours once a month and also do a conference call with other trainees, and go through about 30min of CBT once a month. you'll be paid $100 a month and you're not obligated to work for them, also you cannot jump seat while you're an airmen trainee but you'll get the other benefits.

Swakid8
02-01-2018, 01:21 PM
I was just interviewing with Airwis for an FO but I got the details for airmen trainee, basically all you need to do is call a pilot recruiter and gibe him your hours once a month and also do a conference call with other trainees, and go through about 30min of CBT once a month. you'll be paid $100 a month and you're not obligated to work for them, also you cannot jump seat while you're an airmen trainee but you'll get the other benefits.


Conference call is optional


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intherightseat
02-01-2018, 11:12 PM
No reason not to apply. It has been an amazing experience.

HighWingingIt
02-20-2018, 12:00 PM
Anyone got more information on the interview process? Pretty straight forward?


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fly4jx
03-01-2018, 01:48 PM
Is anyone attending the Airmen Trainee interview tomorrow in Chicago? I know they had one today and also have one tomorrow, which I will be attending.

Best

sent you a pm

intherightseat
03-01-2018, 02:08 PM
Anyone got more information on the interview process? Pretty straight forward?





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Sent this to another that PMd me asking the same question - no reason to limit to one person.

ďHey-
It was a basic written. Private and private instrument level - it was 8mo ago so I donít remember specifics.

The interview was HR - strengths, weaknesses, overcame a conflict, demonstrated leadership, why flying, why air wis, what traits are needed for a successful pilot. Bennies kicked in within weeks after orientation - but that was a little over a month after getting the offer after the interview. They pay you, fly you out and put you up for both the interview and orientation.

Best of luck.Ē

Your schedules and timelines could be different but thatís how it worked out for me. Nothing but great things to say about everybody Iíve interacted with. Still thinking about Endeavor (that pay scale is just incredible relative to AWA) but strongly considering AWA given how theyíve been throughout this experience.


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HighWingingIt
03-03-2018, 10:15 AM
Sent this to another that PMd me asking the same question - no reason to limit to one person.

ďHey-
It was a basic written. Private and private instrument level - it was 8mo ago so I donít remember specifics.

The interview was HR - strengths, weaknesses, overcame a conflict, demonstrated leadership, why flying, why air wis, what traits are needed for a successful pilot. Bennies kicked in within weeks after orientation - but that was a little over a month after getting the offer after the interview. They pay you, fly you out and put you up for both the interview and orientation.

Best of luck.Ē

Your schedules and timelines could be different but thatís how it worked out for me. Nothing but great things to say about everybody Iíve interacted with. Still thinking about Endeavor (that pay scale is just incredible relative to AWA) but strongly considering AWA given how theyíve been throughout this experience.


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Awesome! Good to know, will be interviewing soon for the Airman Trainee Program. I as well am thinking of EDV, simply canít blame anyone for wanting to go there. However I get a good ďsmall familyĒ feel from AWA and from what Iíve heard people say they cannot complain one bit except for the -200ís. Oh well, a jet is a jet.


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SkychickenFO
03-13-2018, 02:02 PM
Anybody interviewing in ORD tomorrow?

Offthegrid81
04-09-2018, 10:09 AM
Does anyone know how strict they are on the 500-hour requirement to participate in the program? I'm just short of 350 hours, so still a ways to go. I'm just wondering when it would make sense to apply.

UhOhItsTheFiveO
04-09-2018, 11:17 AM
Does anyone know how strict they are on the 500-hour requirement to participate in the program? I'm just short of 350 hours, so still a ways to go. I'm just wondering when it would make sense to apply.

Great question, i'm coming up on about the same amount of hours as you but was just planning on waiting until that 500 to send it in. But if they allow apps at an earlier time, and you can show you'll have 500 before employment, that would be awesome too.

tonsterboy5
04-09-2018, 02:38 PM
How long does the background take?

42ER
04-10-2018, 08:18 AM
How long does the background take?

Too long. The background check provider is PITA

42ER
04-10-2018, 08:19 AM
Great question, i'm coming up on about the same amount of hours as you but was just planning on waiting until that 500 to send it in. But if they allow apps at an earlier time, and you can show you'll have 500 before employment, that would be awesome too.

If you are from one of the partner schools, I think they accept as low as 250TT.

tonsterboy5
04-10-2018, 08:58 AM
Too long. The background check provider is PITA

Iím going on 2 months now, maybe by the time they finish I will be at ATP mins.

Offthegrid81
04-10-2018, 07:17 PM
Great question, i'm coming up on about the same amount of hours as you but was just planning on waiting until that 500 to send it in. But if they allow apps at an earlier time, and you can show you'll have 500 before employment, that would be awesome too.

Yeah, that probably makes the most sense. I read a few pages back that they were flexible on the 500 hours, so I wasn't sure if that is something that is just for schools that they are affiliated with -- as they advertise -- or if it is something that they apply more broadly.

lukeh99
04-11-2018, 06:03 AM
Yeah, that probably makes the most sense. I read a few pages back that they were flexible on the 500 hours, so I wasn't sure if that is something that is just for schools that they are affiliated with -- as they advertise -- or if it is something that they apply more broadly.

If you are affiliated in any way with one of the partner schools you qualify for 250 hours. Otherwise it is 500 hours.

The partner schools are listed here:

http://www.airwis.com/airman_trainee.html

Itís a great program and there is literally no downside. When your CFI friends ask what you did last weekend you can casually mention your quick weekend trip to Tokyo for sushi and watch their heads explode. :-)

HighWingingIt
04-12-2018, 03:27 PM
Just passed 1 month since I got accepted into the program, still waiting on the background check.


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SoFloFlyer
04-14-2018, 09:42 PM
I met with a pilot recruiter at Sun Ní Fun and he explained the program pretty well. Never got to ask what type of computer based training is it? Is it -200 stuff? Also, the fact that itís taking months for a background check to come back is kinda of discouraging

BigZ
04-16-2018, 07:19 PM
I met with a pilot recruiter at Sun Ní Fun and he explained the program pretty well. Never got to ask what type of computer based training is it? Is it -200 stuff? Also, the fact that itís taking months for a background check to come back is kinda of discouraging
First three months it's generic stuff about the company, how to use your travel bennies etc. Then it starts going into the -200.
Great folks at AirWis, I ended up going elsewhere, but have only the best to say about Air Whiskey guys

SoFloFlyer
04-16-2018, 07:40 PM
First three months it's generic stuff about the company, how to use your travel bennies etc. Then it starts going into the -200.
Great folks at AirWis, I ended up going elsewhere, but have only the best to say about Air Whiskey guys

Thatís awesome to hear! AW seems to be a solid regional from what Iíve been hearing. Iíll definitely apply for the program as soon as I get to 500 hours

davidh
04-20-2018, 07:24 PM
For those guys who finished the program, what happened once you hit your ATP mins? As far as paperwork? Do you have to go back through Sterling all over again...? And re-submit all your employment stuff like W2's and everything? Or is it just an FAA and criminal background check?

flyingpotato
06-23-2018, 11:45 AM
Hey guys had a question. A friend of mine resigned from the Airman Trainee program to go to another regional airline and was charged around $400 for travel expenses. They were a trainee for around a year. I believe this was from transporting them for the interview and and for orientation. Has anyone else had to pay this?

Swakid8
06-25-2018, 07:59 AM
Hey guys had a question. A friend of mine resigned from the Airman Trainee program to go to another regional airline and was charged around $400 for travel expenses. They were a trainee for around a year. I believe this was from transporting them for the interview and and for orientation. Has anyone else had to pay this?


No


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ZenoAir
06-26-2018, 05:54 AM
I would send that bill back up to ATW and say shove it up your A$$...Our wanna be lawyer probably approved this! Still waiting for this dude to get back to the line and see first hand his operational excellence these days.

tonsterboy5
06-26-2018, 08:53 AM
Hey guys had a question. A friend of mine resigned from the Airman Trainee program to go to another regional airline and was charged around $400 for travel expenses. They were a trainee for around a year. I believe this was from transporting them for the interview and and for orientation. Has anyone else had to pay this?

It might be for the $50 enrollment fee per person for the travel benefits. They are VERY clear that they will deduct this from pay but I haven't seen this, so it might be them messing up the deduction and looking for the money back.

Pilot man
07-02-2018, 09:21 PM
What are the minimums you are expected to fly per month as a trainee?

SoFloFlyer
07-03-2018, 10:40 PM
What are the minimums you are expected to fly per month as a trainee?

Is this a legitimate question or are you trolling cuz...

blindfayth
07-05-2018, 07:45 PM
Is this a legitimate question or are you trolling cuz...

That's a legitimate question. They aren't going to continue to pay you 100$ a month if you never fly a day in your life as a CFI again.

They want to see that you are actively building time.

To answer the persons question: There is no set criteria # of hours a month you are expected to build. They just want to see that you're making reasonable progress. It's subjective, I suppose.

NachoSoto
07-23-2018, 11:50 AM
I just finished the process and got scheduled for orientation in August (I'm at 568h). Anybody else going?

trouljaboy
07-24-2018, 06:59 PM
I just finished the process and got scheduled for orientation in August (I'm at 568h). Anybody else going?

How long did it take after you submitted your background check for it to come back and get your orientation scheduled?

taildragger21
08-14-2018, 03:01 PM
After submitting an application online, how long does it take to hear back and get an interview set up?

Elberton
08-14-2018, 07:58 PM
It took 1 hour from dropping application to getting an interview set up. Just my experience.

tonsterboy5
08-14-2018, 08:32 PM
After submitting an application online, how long does it take to hear back and get an interview set up?

Ohh the world we live in, not just you but seems all to common where people expect an interview for simply applying. I am honestly getting sick of this in every regional thread where someone is asking ďI submitted on x day, when will they call meĒ not everyone will get an interview and as soon as people realize that this world will be a better place. Most regionals are filling classes, some for months out. This shortage that everyone speaks of hasnít arrived in full swing yet.

DarkSideMoon
08-14-2018, 09:17 PM
Ohh the world we live in, not just you but seems all to common where people expect an interview for simply applying. I am honestly getting sick of this in every regional thread where someone is asking ďI submitted on x day, when will they call meĒ not everyone will get an interview and as soon as people realize that this world will be a better place. Most regionals are filling classes, some for months out. This shortage that everyone speaks of hasnít arrived in full swing yet.

Someone sounds bitter that they havenít gotten a call. A few years back I updated my airline apps about 250 hours away from ATP mins. Got 4 calls that week to interview. One was less than 8 hours after I submitted the app. The shortage is here and all but the most selective regionals will call you back unless you have some kind of red flag.

The guy youíre relying to is simply trying to gauge if heís going to even get a call. If everyone else is getting called the next day and this guy hasnít heard anything in a month thatís intel he can use to figure out itís probably not happening. Not everything is some kind of morality issue.

tonsterboy5
08-14-2018, 09:38 PM
Someone sounds bitter that they havenít gotten a call. A few years back I updated my airline apps about 250 hours away from ATP mins. Got 4 calls that week to interview. One was less than 8 hours after I submitted the app. The shortage is here and all but the most selective regionals will call you back unless you have some kind of red flag.

The guy youíre relying to is simply trying to gauge if heís going to even get a call. If everyone else is getting called the next day and this guy hasnít heard anything in a month thatís intel he can use to figure out itís probably not happening. Not everything is some kind of morality issue.

He was fine until he asked about getting the interview, that is the entitlement I am talking about. There is nothing wrong with asking how long does it take to get back. I must also say Iím not bitter at all, I have worked for my first choice companies my whole life. Im A very blunt and straight forward and canít stand entitled people. This is the same guy that will refuse to do anything or even clean up a mess after himself. You know, they guy who spills his dip cup and just leaves it there. Or who leaves random snot tissues in the plane when he leaves.

DarkSideMoon
08-14-2018, 09:44 PM
He was fine until he asked about getting the interview, that is the entitlement I am talking about. There is nothing wrong with asking how long does it take to get back. I must also say Iím not bitter at all, I have worked for my first choice companies my whole life. Im A very blunt and straight forward and canít stand entitled people. This is the same guy that will refuse to do anything or even clean up a mess after himself. You know, they guy who spills his dip cup and just leaves it there. Or who leaves random snot tissues in the plane when he leaves.

Can you show me on this doll where the new hire hurt you?

Not sure how long itís been since you applied for a job, but a rejection call is incredibly uncommon. Itís usually just silence. Leaving the applicant to ask others how long the usual response time is.

dera
08-14-2018, 09:59 PM
Someone sounds bitter that they havenít gotten a call. A few years back I updated my airline apps about 250 hours away from ATP mins. Got 4 calls that week to interview. One was less than 8 hours after I submitted the app. The shortage is here and all but the most selective regionals will call you back unless you have some kind of red flag.

The guy youíre relying to is simply trying to gauge if heís going to even get a call. If everyone else is getting called the next day and this guy hasnít heard anything in a month thatís intel he can use to figure out itís probably not happening. Not everything is some kind of morality issue.

GoJet sent an email (at 11PM!) 45 minutes after I submitted my app :)

Elberton
08-15-2018, 07:28 AM
How long do the FO background check take from interview to orientation date? I might have missed it in the other thread. Thanks.

taildragger21
08-15-2018, 12:47 PM
He was fine until he asked about getting the interview, that is the entitlement I am talking about. There is nothing wrong with asking how long does it take to get back. I must also say Iím not bitter at all, I have worked for my first choice companies my whole life. Im A very blunt and straight forward and canít stand entitled people. This is the same guy that will refuse to do anything or even clean up a mess after himself. You know, they guy who spills his dip cup and just leaves it there. Or who leaves random snot tissues in the plane when he leaves.

Who knew that asking a forum about the expected time to hear back from sending in an application was such a crime... It has been my experience from reading multiple threads, that everyone was at least offered an interview if they met the qualifications for the airmen trainee position. I''m not entitled to a job just because I applied, but I would expect to have a chance with an interview given the current airline shortage for pilots/other posts on forums. Someone is just an insecure keyboard warrior who monitors airmen trainee forums even after accepting their "first choice" positions...

injun21
08-15-2018, 10:26 PM
Someone sounds bitter that they havenít gotten a call. A few years back I updated my airline apps about 250 hours away from ATP mins. Got 4 calls that week to interview. One was less than 8 hours after I submitted the app. The shortage is here and all but the most selective regionals will call you back unless you have some kind of red flag.

The guy youíre relying to is simply trying to gauge if heís going to even get a call. If everyone else is getting called the next day and this guy hasnít heard anything in a month thatís intel he can use to figure out itís probably not happening. Not everything is some kind of morality issue.


Yep. This is correct. The shortage is real.

injun21
08-15-2018, 10:30 PM
GoJet sent an email (at 11PM!) 45 minutes after I submitted my app :)


Right, itís GoJet

dino87
09-25-2018, 03:05 PM
After submitting an application online, how long does it take to hear back and get an interview set up?

For a friend of mine, she heard back within a week, had the interview time within a month and her clearance within a month after that. For me, took about a month to get an interview invite and about 3 months after that before my clearance went through.



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