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View Full Version : CE310 crashes on 405 fwy...


TheFly
07-04-2017, 05:44 AM
https://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/wiki.php?id=196432

The aircraft crashed onto Freeway 405 northwest of John Wayne-Orange County Airport (KSNA), Santa Ana, California. The aircraft was partially consumed by the ensuing fire and the two occupants onboard were injured.


UAL T38 Phlyer
07-04-2017, 06:41 AM
More astonishing than the crash is the close-up video of people just driving by...no one stopping to help, call for help, etc.

TheFly
07-04-2017, 08:35 AM
More astonishing than the crash is the close-up video of people just driving by...no one stopping to help, call for help, etc.

Exactly. Yesterday's Good Samaritan is today's film and spectate.


Upntheair27
07-04-2017, 01:50 PM
An off duty fire fighter who was hit by plane was the first to help pull pilots out.

trip
07-04-2017, 08:51 PM
More astonishing than the crash is the close-up video of people just driving by...no one stopping to help, call for help, etc.

That's what I thought. SoCal nut bunch can't be slowed down by no ffing plane crash, beeep-beeep get outta my way.

UAL T38 Phlyer
07-05-2017, 01:49 AM
An off duty fire fighter who was hit by plane was the first to help pull pilots out.

My point: in a sea of (in)humanity, almost no one stopped to help...."Hey look, it's on fire. Jerks!! Now I have to move over a lane, and I might not get home in time to watch my favorite show!!" :mad:

brianb
07-05-2017, 06:10 AM
Sheep Nation is alive and well.

Adlerdriver
07-05-2017, 07:44 AM
I think some of this outrage is misplaced. I'm not saying there's not some self-disclosed buffoonery available. Filming the crash from the driver's seat while operating a motor vehicle on the 405 as a start. In the early portion of that video, the aircraft initially has zero line of sight motion and is coming his way. You gotta wonder about someone whose first instinct isn't deconfliction from the oncoming threat, but rather, "Better get my cell phone out and get some video for my facebook page". Actually, he was probably already texting :rolleyes:, so the phone must have been readily available.

But, in the videos I see:
A group of people near the burning aircraft helping the occupants with at least a half-dozen civilian cars parked on the side of the road.
A guy running on the side of the freeway in the direction of the crash.
EVERY still or video has a fire truck and/or first-responders in the picture.

People film everything these days. They're idiots. But when you're on a major freeway with multiple cars already stopped in the breakdown lane to help and emergency personnel on the scene, how much additional help is the average idiot with a cell phone camera going to be? They'd probably just end up getting tagged by a passing car and become part of the problem. There is such thing as too much help in that situation, IMO.

Dougdrvr
07-05-2017, 06:58 PM
Look at the video of the Skywest evacuation at DEN with the engine fire. People weren't even past the wingtip before turning around to film the blazing engine. It's lucky someone wasn't run over by a crash truck while backing up with their phone in their face.



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