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DvlDog
07-10-2017, 09:53 AM
In the first year I know if I get JA'ed or pick up open time I get second year pay plus premium etc. if I bid premium.

Do I get second year pay if I pick up trips in Trip trade giveaway?

Thanks


Warhawg01
07-10-2017, 10:12 AM
No. Only extra time picked up from the company. And only that time that is above your original line award.

Smooth at FL450
07-10-2017, 12:29 PM
Your open time bid does not have to be a premium bid to get 2nd year pay. A straight time award will also. And at your seniority you'll have better odds getting the trip on a straight bid.


e6bpilot
07-10-2017, 03:01 PM
Also look at MOT and the rules associated with that. You can pick up multiple days on some fairly easy trips with deadheads and even ELITT into more days at second year pay. Most guys out of their probie year don't even consider MOT since it all pays straight. YMMV based on your flying habits, but I found it a useful tool for a few months anyway.

tattooguy21
07-10-2017, 05:27 PM
Hi, didn't want to start a new thread and I'm not seeing it addressed in any other threads....what bases are most Jr/senior for SWA?

NorskAir
07-10-2017, 06:19 PM
The last two classes got OAK and BWI for the August vacancy.

Hi, didn't want to start a new thread and I'm not seeing it addressed in any other threads....what bases are most Jr/senior for SWA?

DvlDog
07-11-2017, 10:34 AM
Cool, thanks for the info guys. The flying part is easy, trying to figure out all these little details is the hard part.

:)

Smooth at FL450
07-11-2017, 02:00 PM
Cool, thanks for the info guys. The flying part is easy, trying to figure out all these little details is the hard part.

:)

Yup. Keep in mind, if there's a what looks like good trip in open time that nobody is bidding on, it's probably not as good as it seems. A long deadhead on the back end that you think you'll get released from has a good chance that you'll end up operating. But as a junior guy, those are sometimes the only 2nd year trips you can get.

jabfly
07-14-2017, 01:20 PM
If BWI is your hub, will your trips mostly start at BWI or do many also start in DCA or IAD?

Smooth at FL450
07-14-2017, 02:06 PM
If BWI is your hub, will your trips mostly start at BWI or do many also start in DCA or IAD?

All will start in BWI

at6d
07-14-2017, 03:07 PM
Here is another thing that can help out--trading reserve blocks for trips.

One strategy I used during my first year was to put every reserve block into give away AND trip trade. I traded for almost any trip--because then I could either ELITT for something better, or at least have a schedule for that period when I was commuting.

I was fortunate to fly less than two months worth of reserve during my first year using that strategy.

It requires some patience and some faith...but it's feasible.



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