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uptpilot
09-01-2017, 12:23 PM
Can someone please tell me what makes the 737Max so great? It doesn't look like it beats the 321Neo in any meaningful way. I've been looking for comparisons but haven't really found any decent discussions based on metrics.

For example, can it takeoff with a full passenger load or will you have to deplane lots of paying customers? I hear this is a problem with the later model 737s.

Is there more room in the cockpit yet?

Is any of the flight control system more advanced than 1960's technology?


pokey9554
09-01-2017, 02:06 PM
Can someone please tell me what makes the 737Max so great? It doesn't look like it beats the 321Neo in any meaningful way. I've been looking for comparisons but haven't really found any decent discussions based on metrics.

Factually, I have no idea. Based on previous generation aircraft numbers, my guess is that the 737 has a lower operating cost and Boeing is making attractive offers to potential customers.

For example, can it takeoff with a full passenger load or will you have to deplane lots of paying customers? I hear this is a problem with the later model 737s.

Of course one denied boarding due to an engineering problem is one too many, but this is more uncommon than you might think. Typically, it's due to single engine performance at the arriving airport when ice has been accumulated on surfaces without ice protection and weather conditions are such that the ice will remain on those surfaces. When those conditions don't exist, there's usually no need to remove passengers. I know of a flight in a 900ER with full fuel and full passengers that flew just over 6.5 hours.

Is there more room in the cockpit yet?

Gosh I hope so, but probably not.

Is any of the flight control system more advanced than 1960's technology?

If you're talking about fly by wire vs conventional hydraulic controls, I'd say both are pretty industry standard. There are brand new airplanes utilizing each method that have proven to be safe and reliable.

JetBlueNewb
01-01-2018, 06:02 AM
Lighter, better fuel economy, and "less" maintenance. The first two are pretty much a given, the last one is yet to be seen. It's all about the bottom line, whatever can move the most people from point A to point B for less cost to the airline.

As for the PW1000 NEOs, it seems like a great concept but as with anything new it has its growing pains. It may become the new standard design since standard turbojet engine efficiency is already highly engineered to the limits of modern improvement.


sailingfun
01-07-2018, 10:47 PM
With the exception of the rare icing at arrival which I think has been fixed the Max will do better than the A321 on longer flights. I was just denied a jumpseat on a A321 CEO going from CLT to LAX for weight and they pulled revenue passengers.

SonicFlyer
01-08-2018, 12:48 PM
Here are two promotional videos of the bird:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XEsSRqnOwc



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CXpBX1Gp9p8

tomgoodman
01-08-2018, 05:11 PM
Can someone please tell me what makes the 737Max so great?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LEEyijiTW-I

And Iím not lion about it. :D

UAL T38 Phlyer
01-08-2018, 05:56 PM
Trim wheels. They are awesome. :p