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Blackhawk2ATP
09-27-2017, 09:57 AM
I cant seem to get ahold of a recruiter to break it down exactly how the R2W program works in further detail than what the website gives you.
-Wondering about how the bonus works and when its paid out. Another wards to use as subsidized income while training.
-How long till availability of entering training if offered a position?
-Housing situation, your responsibility to pay or is it payed for?
-If I already have attained my COMM SEL/INST Fixed wing add on am I going to have to use any of my Military benefits or will the remaining cost be covered?
currently 1280 hrs helo with 68 fixed wing.
Already have a job offer from Envoy

Thanks


Privateer383
09-27-2017, 11:53 AM
The entire cost of your flying at SkyWarrior (including housing) is paid by TSAir, but deducted from your sign-on bonus. The balance of your bonus is paid the 12 month after you start flying the line. Food and transportation is "out-of-pocket", and you are not being paid for your training or for the time spent there. I plan to purchase a cheap bicycle when I arrive there next month.

Sky Warrior provides a cost analysis prior to signing the contract. Highlight from mine are as follows:

MEL add-on, 10 hrs, $3350, plus $460 for 2hr check ride.
SEL timebuilding, 89hrs $6675.
Housing (2 months) $800.

I am assured these are ESTIMATES, and can go either up or down in actuality.

Hope this helps.

MedHawk60
09-27-2017, 01:53 PM
Has anyone had an interview with TSA going R2W. Can you explain the process. Do they ask any technical questions?


Privateer383
09-28-2017, 02:46 PM
MedHawk60,

I interviewed in August and was not asked any technical questions. My interviewers were very satisfied with my abilities based upon my military experience.

My perception is that the priority of the interview was making sure you're not a butthead and will be pleasant company in the cockpit on a 4-day trip, as well as being a team player, calm, well-spoken/articulate, professionally dressed with good personal hygiene, and all the usual person-to-person concerns.

I asked specifically about tech issues and my male interviewer (L.M.) expressed it was not an issue since we could obviously fly (we passed the Army's flight program) and SkyWarrior would get me up to speed (FW requirements) in preparation for ERJ-145 ground school. I head to SkyWarrior in October.

If you have an interview- just be pleasant, honest and forthright, and enjoy your time there. They are quite pleasant company!

Happy landings,

Privateer383
(Dustoff!)

Blackhawk2ATP
09-29-2017, 04:36 AM
MedHawk60,

I interviewed in August and was not asked any technical questions. My interviewers were very satisfied with my abilities based upon my military experience.

My perception is that the priority of the interview was making sure you're not a butthead and will be pleasant company in the cockpit on a 4-day trip, as well as being a team player, calm, well-spoken/articulate, professionally dressed with good personal hygiene, and all the usual person-to-person concerns.

I asked specifically about tech issues and my male interviewer (L.M.) expressed it was not an issue since we could obviously fly (we passed the Army's flight program) and SkyWarrior would get me up to speed (FW requirements) in preparation for ERJ-145 ground school. I head to SkyWarrior in October.



If you have an interview- just be pleasant, honest and forthright, and enjoy your time there. They are quite pleasant company!

Happy landings,

Privateer383
(Dustoff!)


How do any bonuses work?
Do they pay out anything at the time of training or is it just after indoc?
What about expenses living wise, hence the question if they pay anything out during training. That's what I was wondering.
About the more detailed information.

Rotorx
10-06-2017, 10:35 PM
Bonuses work as explained above, with the cost of training that you need provided by the company to get you Comm AMEL, with 250 PIC hours coming out of the $30k offered. The balance, after taking out the cost for said training, is your bonus. It is paid in one lump sum 12 months after you finish Initial Operating Experience (IOE). During the time that you are working on your fixed wing ratings and time, however you choose to do it, there is no salary paid. If you go to one of the schools that TSA has contracted with, they will pay for your room (approx. $400/month). Other than that, no living expenses, etc are paid by the company. Once you begin training in St Louis, however, in the Indoc and First Officer ground school, you get paid the block minimum (works out to a little more than $2000/month.

Iím about halfway through the FO training right now. If anyone has any questions, feel free to send me a DM. Iím loving it. TSA has been amazing so far.

PonceD1980
10-26-2017, 06:01 AM
Hello everyone, I have an interview next month with TSA.

So I have my rotorcraft ATP already. The way I understand it is the fixed wing will be an add on. My interview email says to have my ATP written done before the interview. Is this what you guys did?

Thanks and greetings!

Rotor2prop
12-01-2017, 04:48 AM
Anyone have an update on what they think of the program?

PonceD1980
12-01-2017, 09:42 AM
No need to have ATP written complete prior to interview. IAW with FAA regs you can't take the ATP written until passing the ATP/CTP course.

havick206
12-02-2017, 12:48 PM
A helo buddy of mine recently spoke with TSA recruiters about their RTP program. Basically theyíre giving you an advance in your signing bonus unlike Envoy, PDT, TSA where the RTP money is separate from the signing bonus.

Privateer383
12-05-2017, 04:47 PM
Anyone have an update on what they think of the program?

I'm currently finishing my FW requirements and will be starting TSA's ground school in the next 30-45 days. I had some of my FW time before joining the R2W program, so I will still see a comfortable bonus at the 12 month mark. I'm very grateful for the advanced bonus from Trans States, and have no complaints. It comes with a two year contract which is quite reasonable, and a lot better than the 6-year contract I had to sign to get flight training in the US Army (and so far nobody's shot at me in TSA's program). No company is perfect, but I think TSA has a very fair and beneficial program for us helo folk. I think it's is a very good path into an airline career.

Rotor2prop
12-08-2017, 03:36 AM
I'm currently finishing my FW requirements and will be starting TSA's ground school in the next 30-45 days. I had some of my FW time before joining the R2W program, so I will still see a comfortable bonus at the 12 month mark. I'm very grateful for the advanced bonus from Trans States, and have no complaints. It comes with a two year contract which is quite reasonable, and a lot better than the 6-year contract I had to sign to get flight training in the US Army (and so far nobody's shot at me in TSA's program). No company is perfect, but I think TSA has a very fair and beneficial program for us helo folk. I think it's is a very good path into an airline career.

Good Deal! I accepted the offer from TSA and currently arranging scheduling for my additional FW training. I'm only about ~30hrs short so it should be quick!

StaffAvi8r
01-10-2018, 02:32 PM
Question for those who are currently in or finished with IOE, but first some background info. Due to low total time (410) and the benefit of a 12-month deployment's worth of cash in the bank, I'm going to self-fund a good deal of FW training before applying for R2W. I'll accomplish this on nights and weekends during my remaining time in service. Keeping in mind that lots of people on these forums say seniority is everything, should I apply the second I become eligible? Or should I take a bit of time to study and make sure I really have "jet stuff" down solid before applying?

Rotor2prop
01-11-2018, 02:34 PM
Question for those who are currently in or finished with IOE, but first some background info. Due to low total time (410) and the benefit of a 12-month deployment's worth of cash in the bank, I'm going to self-fund a good deal of FW training before applying for R2W. I'll accomplish this on nights and weekends during my remaining time in service. Keeping in mind that lots of people on these forums say seniority is everything, should I apply the second I become eligible? Or should I take a bit of time to study and make sure I really have "jet stuff" down solid before applying?


Apply as soon as you can. If you want to read the book " Everything Explained for Professional Pilots" you'll be in good shape to start initial airline training. If you can make it through any military flight school you will be fine if you show up humble and ready to learn.

StaffAvi8r
01-11-2018, 05:57 PM
Apply as soon as you can. If you want to read the book " Everything Explained for Professional Pilots" you'll be in good shape to start initial airline training. If you can make it through any military flight school you will be fine if you show up humble and ready to learn.

Thanks for the response. I have started reading some of that book and i'm really enjoying it so far. I'm ignorant of what is involved with ATP-CPT courses as well as IOE, so the advice is much appreciated.

khos13
01-12-2018, 08:33 PM
Thanks for the response. I have started reading some of that book and i'm really enjoying it so far. I'm ignorant of what is involved with ATP-CPT courses as well as IOE, so the advice is much appreciated.

I spoke with a recruiter about how it works yesterday. If you are accepted to the RTP program then you will be sent to an ATP-CTP course when you are done time building. It is about 8 days long and in Dallas area. After you are done with the ATP course you will go to saint Louis for ground school and IOE. The ground school takes about 85-90 days where you get your jet training and when done there you will do IOE. Initial operators experiance lasts for 3-5 days and it is basically hands on experience. You will fly as a first officer with an experienced captain for a trip. When all that is done you will graduate and go to your first base.

Rotor2prop
01-13-2018, 09:00 AM
Just to put some more information out there. They just increased the bonus again this week quite a bit. Check out their website for more info.