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View Full Version : Thank You CommutAir!!!


jshoneycutt
10-09-2017, 06:32 PM
An incredible, professional, personable, transparent application experience.

Marie reached out to me on LinkedIn, and it is in my nature to thoroughly consider opportunities when they are presented to me. I loved that Marie has a professional background in recruiting and it was cool to see on LinkedIn I have a friend who could vouch for her :-). I knew it would not make sense to move to another regional and reset my seniority unless I knew I was moving into a much better opportunity. I had so many questions about the company's background, culture, vision, strategy, and everything else beyond every regional's promise for pay and upgrades. Marie was fantastic with giving straight answers that gave me great insight into the airline's identity. I spoke with many recruiting departments when I decided to come work for the airlines and there is something about talking to someone whose full-time job and professional background is helping people understand the unique value proposition of their organization.

After a couple phone conversations with Marie I completed the application and quickly received a response back inviting me to an interview with Marie and a seasoned captain, Kourtney. They gave the run down of CommutAir, where they are, where they are going, and what they have to offer. Very conversationally we talked about what I was looking and I gave them a chance to be on the spot too.
Kourtney was great about answering many more questions from me to get a pilot's perspective as well. In all, no games, or gotcha's. Straight forward technical/knowledge validation (yes, you better know how to read text weather products and know when you need an alternate etc...).

I am trying not to make this a complete overview of the entire process, but every step along the way was so refreshing. While I was at HQ in Cleveland I got to talking with another senior captain who had nothing to do with my interview; he was just there to validate my prior 121 time and happy to talk it up with me. I toured the offices there and met several people in just about every department. With each person we met, it felt like I had already been working there and had developed friendships with them. It was just so cool to me to have such a personable experience there.

Pilots, you have to understand, even the strongest contract does not hold a candle to a company that cares about its employees, and the best laid career progression programs fail if the culture does not support your intrinsic progression. Hands down, CommutAir has this covered and is phenomenal airline for this.

It was incredibly difficult for me when for personal and familial circumstances I decided against continuing to pursue a position with CommutAir. Even after I informed them of my choice they were so cordial, and happy for for me. What a world class organization!

Thank you to everyone at CommutAir with whom I had the chance to interact, and all the others who make it a great contribution to the airline industry.

Best Regards,


WesternSkies
10-09-2017, 06:43 PM
Corporations weird me out

jshoneycutt
10-09-2017, 07:01 PM
To some they do. But perhaps CommutAir has something to offer you too :-) Just talking about what I value. You should go work for them and tell us about their other great sides :D


Varsity
10-09-2017, 07:24 PM
Pilots, you have to understand, even the strongest contract does not hold a candle to a company that cares about its employees, and the best laid career progression programs fail if the culture does not support your intrinsic progression. Hands down, CommutAir has this covered and is phenomenal airline for this.

lmao

cringe worthy

knewyork
10-09-2017, 08:00 PM
What the hell is this

Paid2fly
10-09-2017, 08:57 PM
What the hell is this












The Russians hacked APC?:confused::confused::eek:

YLpilot
10-10-2017, 03:53 AM
Gotta be trolling. Gotta be.

VIRotate
10-10-2017, 04:10 AM
I cringed so hard as I read this.

Cirrusly
10-10-2017, 04:23 AM
this person obviously needs to be medicated

PotatoChip
10-10-2017, 04:53 AM
What the what?
What manager dreamed this up??

SKNPilot
10-10-2017, 05:23 AM
An incredible, professional, personable, transparent application experience.

Marie reached out to me on LinkedIn, and it is in my nature to thoroughly consider opportunities when they are presented to me. I loved that Marie has a professional background in recruiting and it was cool to see on LinkedIn I have a friend who could vouch for her :-). I knew it would not make sense to move to another regional and reset my seniority unless I knew I was moving into a much better opportunity. I had so many questions about the company's background, culture, vision, strategy, and everything else beyond every regional's promise for pay and upgrades. Marie was fantastic with giving straight answers that gave me great insight into the airline's identity. I spoke with many recruiting departments when I decided to come work for the airlines and there is something about talking to someone whose full-time job and professional background is helping people understand the unique value proposition of their organization.

After a couple phone conversations with Marie I completed the application and quickly received a response back inviting me to an interview with Marie and a seasoned captain, Kourtney. They gave the run down of CommutAir, where they are, where they are going, and what they have to offer. Very conversationally we talked about what I was looking and I gave them a chance to be on the spot too.
Kourtney was great about answering many more questions from me to get a pilot's perspective as well. In all, no games, or gotcha's. Straight forward technical/knowledge validation (yes, you better know how to read text weather products and know when you need an alternate etc...).

I am trying not to make this a complete overview of the entire process, but every step along the way was so refreshing. While I was at HQ in Cleveland I got to talking with another senior captain who had nothing to do with my interview; he was just there to validate my prior 121 time and happy to talk it up with me. I toured the offices there and met several people in just about every department. With each person we met, it felt like I had already been working there and had developed friendships with them. It was just so cool to me to have such a personable experience there.

Pilots, you have to understand, even the strongest contract does not hold a candle to a company that cares about its employees, and the best laid career progression programs fail if the culture does not support your intrinsic progression. Hands down, CommutAir has this covered and is phenomenal airline for this.

It was incredibly difficult for me when for personal and familial circumstances I decided against continuing to pursue a position with CommutAir. Even after I informed them of my choice they were so cordial, and happy for for me. What a world class organization!

Thank you to everyone at CommutAir with whom I had the chance to interact, and all the others who make it a great contribution to the airline industry.

Best Regards,

I am happy to see that you had a great experience with CommutAir's recruiting team, I believe they are the best, and most upfront people in the industry. My interview experience was very similar to what you described.

BLURCEO
10-10-2017, 07:05 AM
An incredible, professional, personable, transparent application experience.

Marie reached out to me on LinkedIn, and it is in my nature to thoroughly consider opportunities when they are presented to me. I loved that Marie has a professional background in recruiting and it was cool to see on LinkedIn I have a friend who could vouch for her :-). I knew it would not make sense to move to another regional and reset my seniority unless I knew I was moving into a much better opportunity. I had so many questions about the company's background, culture, vision, strategy, and everything else beyond every regional's promise for pay and upgrades. Marie was fantastic with giving straight answers that gave me great insight into the airline's identity. I spoke with many recruiting departments when I decided to come work for the airlines and there is something about talking to someone whose full-time job and professional background is helping people understand the unique value proposition of their organization.

After a couple phone conversations with Marie I completed the application and quickly received a response back inviting me to an interview with Marie and a seasoned captain, Kourtney. They gave the run down of CommutAir, where they are, where they are going, and what they have to offer. Very conversationally we talked about what I was looking and I gave them a chance to be on the spot too.
Kourtney was great about answering many more questions from me to get a pilot's perspective as well. In all, no games, or gotcha's. Straight forward technical/knowledge validation (yes, you better know how to read text weather products and know when you need an alternate etc...).

I am trying not to make this a complete overview of the entire process, but every step along the way was so refreshing. While I was at HQ in Cleveland I got to talking with another senior captain who had nothing to do with my interview; he was just there to validate my prior 121 time and happy to talk it up with me. I toured the offices there and met several people in just about every department. With each person we met, it felt like I had already been working there and had developed friendships with them. It was just so cool to me to have such a personable experience there.

Pilots, you have to understand, even the strongest contract does not hold a candle to a company that cares about its employees, and the best laid career progression programs fail if the culture does not support your intrinsic progression. Hands down, CommutAir has this covered and is phenomenal airline for this.

It was incredibly difficult for me when for personal and familial circumstances I decided against continuing to pursue a position with CommutAir. Even after I informed them of my choice they were so cordial, and happy for for me. What a world class organization!

Thank you to everyone at CommutAir with whom I had the chance to interact, and all the others who make it a great contribution to the airline industry.

Best Regards,

May I see the checkstub for the check that they gave you for saying this?

Busdriver91
10-10-2017, 07:09 AM
Other places still have quick upgrades...one is involuntarily upgrading pilots. Here, well.....we are downgrading. Did they tell you that? They probably told you we were getting 60 airplanes. Haha!

dead meat
10-10-2017, 07:32 AM
He works at GoJet and was looking at jumping to CommutAir. He is obviously lacking in decision making ability if those are the two companies he was deciding between.

Seeing as no actual CommutAir pilots are submitting referrals, I'd wager that someone in N. Olmsted asked him to write a glowing review of the hiring process in exchange for compensation. Why else would someone spend that amount of time and energy writing a bunch of nonsense about a company they don't even work for??

TimingANDluck
10-10-2017, 07:06 PM
CommutAir is downgrading captains. Do not be fooled, this airline is and will always be the worst regional in the industry. While other airlines are offering better and better pay and quality of life, CommutAir continues to scrape the bottom of the barrel and is currently downgrading captains on property. They say that the upgrade time is short, but that is a thing of the past. Stay far far away.

SKNPilot
10-11-2017, 10:21 AM
CommutAir is downgrading captains. Do not be fooled, this airline is and will always be the worst regional in the industry. While other airlines are offering better and better pay and quality of life, CommutAir continues to scrape the bottom of the barrel and is currently downgrading captains on property. They say that the upgrade time is short, but that is a thing of the past. Stay far far away.

Do you have any proof of this claim that CommutAir is downgrading captains? :confused:

Hobbit64
10-11-2017, 10:57 AM
Come on folks...
The person is excited (just like all of YOU were when hired)
Step away from the keyboard once in a while.

PDTpilotXX
10-11-2017, 11:14 AM
Do you have any proof of this claim that CommutAir is downgrading captains? :confused:

They are 100% force downgrading a friend of mine who is an IAD DHC8 Capt on Nov 1

Bgood
10-11-2017, 11:17 AM
Do you have any proof of this claim that CommutAir is downgrading captains? :confused:

I have to ask, where have you been man?
They sent out the displacement list and atleast 2 people I know went from DHC8 CA to ERJ FO

SKNPilot
10-11-2017, 01:50 PM
They are 100% force downgrading a friend of mine who is an IAD DHC8 Capt on Nov 1

oh, must have been a "direct entry" CA. Do they retain captain pay at least? I'm new at this.

SKNPilot
10-11-2017, 01:55 PM
I have to ask, where have you been man?
They sent out the displacement list and atleast 2 people I know went from DHC8 CA to ERJ FO


Just saw the list, those were new hire CA, without much seniority. It's understandable that this had to happen with the transition to a one fleet type. It sucks for them, but the company can't have 170 CA, and 50 FO (Not real numbers).

rogersmith
10-11-2017, 03:26 PM
An incredible, professional, personable, transparent application experience.

Marie reached out to me on LinkedIn, and it is in my nature to thoroughly consider opportunities when they are presented to me. I loved that Marie has a professional background in recruiting and it was cool to see on LinkedIn I have a friend who could vouch for her :-). I knew it would not make sense to move to another regional and reset my seniority unless I knew I was moving into a much better opportunity. I had so many questions about the company's background, culture, vision, strategy, and everything else beyond every regional's promise for pay and upgrades. Marie was fantastic with giving straight answers that gave me great insight into the airline's identity. I spoke with many recruiting departments when I decided to come work for the airlines and there is something about talking to someone whose full-time job and professional background is helping people understand the unique value proposition of their organization.

After a couple phone conversations with Marie I completed the application and quickly received a response back inviting me to an interview with Marie and a seasoned captain, Kourtney. They gave the run down of CommutAir, where they are, where they are going, and what they have to offer. Very conversationally we talked about what I was looking and I gave them a chance to be on the spot too.
Kourtney was great about answering many more questions from me to get a pilot's perspective as well. In all, no games, or gotcha's. Straight forward technical/knowledge validation (yes, you better know how to read text weather products and know when you need an alternate etc...).

I am trying not to make this a complete overview of the entire process, but every step along the way was so refreshing. While I was at HQ in Cleveland I got to talking with another senior captain who had nothing to do with my interview; he was just there to validate my prior 121 time and happy to talk it up with me. I toured the offices there and met several people in just about every department. With each person we met, it felt like I had already been working there and had developed friendships with them. It was just so cool to me to have such a personable experience there.

Pilots, you have to understand, even the strongest contract does not hold a candle to a company that cares about its employees, and the best laid career progression programs fail if the culture does not support your intrinsic progression. Hands down, CommutAir has this covered and is phenomenal airline for this.

It was incredibly difficult for me when for personal and familial circumstances I decided against continuing to pursue a position with CommutAir. Even after I informed them of my choice they were so cordial, and happy for for me. What a world class organization!

Thank you to everyone at CommutAir with whom I had the chance to interact, and all the others who make it a great contribution to the airline industry.

Best Regards,

This is more offensive to all five senses then two girls one cup

Busdriver91
10-11-2017, 05:29 PM
oh, must have been a "direct entry" CA. Do they retain captain pay at least? I'm new at this.

Iím one the ďdirect entryĒ captains on the dash. No, we do not keep our pay. The contract states fo pay starts on first day of training even though when you upgrade to captain the higher rate starts the day you pass your checkride.

MKUltra
10-12-2017, 05:16 AM
Iím one the ďdirect entryĒ captains on the dash. No, we do not keep our pay. The contract states fo pay starts on first day of training even though when you upgrade to captain the higher rate starts the day you pass your checkride.

PDT is now taking DEC... I wouldn't stand for one penny less pay in this market.

Battlinbear21
10-17-2017, 11:55 AM
This is more offensive to all five senses then two girls one cup

True story haha!! Is it more offensive than my fantasy football name... 2 Vickís 1 pup?

hslightnin
10-18-2017, 08:19 AM
. It's understandable that this had to happen with the transition to a one fleet type.

It didnít have to happen. It happened becouse the company failed to attract new hire FOs over the summer.

ShyGuy
10-18-2017, 08:28 AM
Pilots, you have to understand, even the strongest contract does not hold a candle to a company that cares about its employees,

:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:


I like when an entry-level (most likely first airline job) pilot tells the rest of us stuff like this.

chrisreedrules
10-18-2017, 03:53 PM
PDT is now taking DEC... I wouldn't stand for one penny less pay in this market.

Iíve tried telling them there are vastly better places to work and with same/easily commutable base to boot. Some are just tied to their airline for reasons beyond me. If your top 50% on the seniority list, I get it. If not, and especially if you are being downgraded or slipping backwards in seniority, why stay when there really isnít much to gain. Piedmont and Envoy are hiring DECs and are paying handsomely. PSA has a 6 month upgrade right now. Endeavorís new TA will likely be voted in and those rates should look really good to everyone at other regionals right now. Air Wisconsin has really great bonuses and pay. Republic just upped their new hire signing bonus to $15,000 if the 175 is your thing.

PotatoChip
10-18-2017, 07:32 PM
Iíve tried telling them there are vastly better places to work and with same/easily commutable base to boot. Some are just tied to their airline for reasons beyond me. If your top 50% on the seniority list, I get it. If not, and especially if you are being downgraded or slipping backwards in seniority, why stay when there really isnít much to gain. Piedmont and Envoy are hiring DECs and are paying handsomely. PSA has a 6 month upgrade right now. Endeavorís new TA will likely be voted in and those rates should look really good to everyone at other regionals right now. Air Wisconsin has really great bonuses and pay. Republic just upped their new hire signing bonus to $15,000 if the 175 is your thing.

Considering the seniority list has gone from 350+ to 280, people get it.

I'm looking for ANY reason to stay at C5.

jbeauv
10-19-2017, 06:44 AM
Considering the seniority list has gone from 350+ to 280, people get it.

I'm looking for ANY reason to stay at C5.

Do not walk , run as fast as you can! If you take a bonus you will become a slave for a year, if you leave before the year the company will come after you like a bad bill collector. The most I have heard from this company in 10 months is from the collections department.

JediCheese
10-19-2017, 01:52 PM
Do not walk , run as fast as you can! If you take a bonus you will become a slave for a year, if you leave before the year the company will come after you like a bad bill collector. The most I have heard from this company in 10 months is from the collections department.

You obviously didn't get far enough along to get out of training. Training is radio silence. Crew scheduling would love to put a satphone implant in your head that auto answers the way they attempt to contact pilots.

jbeauv
10-19-2017, 07:03 PM
[QUOTE=JediCheese;2450547]You obviously didn't get far enough along to get out of training. Training is radio silence. Crew scheduling would love to put a satphone implant in your head that auto answers the way they attempt to contact pilots.

Read below, the recipients have been removed to protect those who might still be working there. The next time I heard from the company was 3 Sep

From: Elizabeth Schreck
Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2017 6:01 PM
To: Insert about ten names
Cc: Rene DeLange
Subject: Training Update and Apology


Good Evening,

I am the new Senior Manager of Crew Administration and I wanted to reach out to each of you and express my deepest apologies for the lack of communication you have received while waiting for training. I want to also ensure you that we are working diligently to plan you back into the training pipeline. You will each be contacted individually in the next couple of weeks with a schedule or at least an expectation of when your schedule will be completed. Again, I apologize for your wait during what should be a fun an exciting time at a new airline. Please reach out to myself or our Director of Crew Resources, Rene DeLange with questions and expect follow up within two weeks. I am starting vacation tomorrow until 7/10 but I will be checking email during that time. Thank you and have a safe and happy 4th of July.

Liz Schreck
Senior Manager of Crew Administration

Saucy Dingo
10-19-2017, 07:54 PM
That's a long time to be stuck on min pay waiting for those emails. No money and not gaining flying hours to eventually upgrade. Raw deal.. I don't blame you guys for choosing to leave.

jbeauv
10-20-2017, 04:11 AM
That's a long time to be stuck on min pay waiting for those emails. No money and not gaining flying hours to eventually upgrade. Raw deal.. I don't blame you guys for choosing to leave.

This companies communication is beyond low, I will pay back the bonus some how, but it still irritates me that I have sent many inquiries about uniform items I never received from Bonnie at crew outfitters, when I received my last check they took the remaining balance for uniforms in a lump sum without accounting for the missing items and a parking pass that I never received. I have yet to get a response from them. But I have received no less than 4 emails and a bill for the bonus. This is a far different "we are family" picture they painted during the interview.

PotatoChip
10-20-2017, 05:35 AM
This companies communication is beyond low, I will pay back the bonus some how, but it still irritates me that I have sent many inquiries about uniform items I never received from Bonnie at crew outfitters, when I received my last check they took the remaining balance for uniforms in a lump sum without accounting for the missing items and a parking pass that I never received. I have yet to get a response from them. But I have received no less than 4 emails and a bill for the bonus. This is a far different "we are family" picture they painted during the interview.

It's been over a year and I still don't have a hat that I paid for...

Bgood
10-20-2017, 08:08 AM
It's been over a year and I still don't have a hat that I paid for...

Took me 8 months to get everything, I had to become a pest in bonnies ears for me to get everything. I built a schedule on my phone calendar to call bonnie every 2 weeks till I get everything(which I shouldnt have to do to get wat I pay for). I also started asking for her manager cuz im NOT gonna pay for stuff and dont receive it. I think she knows my name by heart now. But I got my s%$t. I learnt this nickle and dime attitude from Company management.

backtoregionals
10-20-2017, 08:36 AM
Took me 8 months to get everything, I had to become a pest in bonnies ears for me to get everything. I built a schedule on my phone calendar to call bonnie every 2 weeks till I get everything(which I shouldnt have to do to get wat I pay for). I also started asking for her manager cuz im NOT gonna pay for stuff and dont receive it. I think she knows my name by heart now. But I got my s%$t. I learnt this nickle and dime attitude from Company management.

FWIW, itís not just Bonnie. Crew Outfitters sucks EVERYWHERE.



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