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UPSfeeder94
10-13-2017, 10:13 AM
Hello, my name is Javier and I'm a 23 year old full time Feeder driver in the DFW, Texas area. I'm a hard working, determined man and am wanting to rise up in the ranks as a UPS employee. I've done many things during my 3 year career with the company mainly becoming a feeder driver at 21 and going out on multiple sleeper runs at such a young age.

I want to become a Pilot for UPS but I'm not sure on what to do and how to start out.

Are there certain schools or degrees to take that will help me gain flight experience?

Do I need military experience and if so is it a necessity?

What is the best Aviation school in the DFW area?

I know this will take a long time to accomplish especially with my job but I'm excited and ready to take on this new challenge in my life!


PotatoChip
10-13-2017, 10:28 AM
Hello, my name is Javier and I'm a 23 year old full time Feeder driver in the DFW, Texas area. I'm a hard working, determined man and am wanting to rise up in the ranks as a UPS employee. I've done many things during my 3 year career with the company mainly becoming a feeder driver at 21 and going out on multiple sleeper runs at such a young age.

I want to become a Pilot for UPS but I'm not sure on what to do and how to start out.

Are there certain schools or degrees to take that will help me gain flight experience?

Do I need military experience and if so is it a necessity?

What is the best Aviation school in the DFW area?

I know this will take a long time to accomplish especially with my job but I'm excited and ready to take on this new challenge in my life!

Look into Ameriflight....

Taildragger46
10-13-2017, 12:22 PM
Look into Ameriflight....

I would back up his statement. Start off by getting your ratings as fast as your bank account allows it. This will put you into the job market quick and allow you to start recovering your investment. Look at schools like atpflightschool.com they have a 9month program starting at $66k with financing available. They can employ you afterwards and get you an instructor job where you can continue to build time until you can go and work at a place like Ameriflight. I see posts from Ameriflight all the time they are desperate for pilots just like everywhere else. Maybe ATP will lead you to a job at a regional where you can also build turbine time and probably upgrade quickly and start building Turbine PIC. These would both be good places to start building some solid experience. Keep your options open. Dont be afraid to try other avenues. As you develop as a pilot you may find that maybe a different kind of flying suits you or your family better but regardless of the path you choose you will have options after having your ratings and some experience under your belt.

I have held jobs in many different sectors of aviation (as a pilot) and I have learned something unique from each experience. After all I've done I am now looking at a career with UPS. Get a college degree if you dont already have one that will help open a lot of doors later as you seek employment with the major companies such as UPS.

Feel free to PM me with any questions I have helped many people get from zero hours to making a good living as pilots. My experiences have led me to have contacts in every sector of aviation and I will be happy to help out in any way I can. Its a great time to get into this career.

Best of luck!


BrownDoubles
10-13-2017, 12:34 PM
If you don't have a college degree I would laterally do that while you work on your ratings. I would strongly advise you to do some research on the new UPS internship program and work in that direction, it seems like a great program to fast track your way into the right seat of a UPS bird. It is extremely competitive but if it works as advertised an absolute lottery ticket.

Globemaster2827
10-13-2017, 12:35 PM
If you want to go the Military route go Air National Guard. There's a C-130 unit in Fort Worth. San Antonio has a Reserve C-5 squadron which would be even better if you could stand the commute. They promote from within as well. I'd recommend doing the 1 weekend a month thing to help with your college bills but you need to be going ALL OUT on this tomorrow if you're going to make it happen because on the Mil side you're already starting to get a little old.

When you're done with your Mil training take a job at Atlas and get a 767 or 747 type... Lately UPS loves a diversified resume like that. If you were to get 1000 PIC with the military or Atlas you'd be scooped up quick.

You're talking about a 5-10 year plan at UPS given what the average Interviewee looks like. Remember that it's not a sprint. It's a marathon!

UPSfeeder94
10-13-2017, 12:57 PM
Thanks everyone for the information! I love my job as a feeder driver but it looks like there's a lot of work to be done. I work about 9-10 hours a day so I have some room to go part time if whatever is needed to accomplish my goals. Or is this something where I would have to quit my job?

UPSfeeder94
10-13-2017, 12:57 PM
If you don't have a college degree I would laterally do that while you work on your ratings. I would strongly advise you to do some research on the new UPS internship program and work in that direction, it seems like a great program to fast track your way into the right seat of a UPS bird. It is extremely competitive but if it works as advertised an absolute lottery ticket.

What is a good degree to persuade in the aviation field?

jdebrey
10-13-2017, 01:08 PM
What is a good degree to persuade in the aviation field?

I'm at the University of North Dakota, It's one of the best aviation university's in the country.

To be Honest get something other than an aviation degree because if your medical gets taken way you are screwed.


If you do end up getting a degree like (commercial fixed wing) make sure you get a double major.

These are just my opinions though. Good luck bud. Hope to see you in the air sometime.

UPSfeeder94
10-13-2017, 01:35 PM
If you want to go the Military route go Air National Guard. There's a C-130 unit in Fort Worth. San Antonio has a Reserve C-5 squadron which would be even better if you could stand the commute. They promote from within as well. I'd recommend doing the 1 weekend a month thing to help with your college bills but you need to be going ALL OUT on this tomorrow if you're going to make it happen because on the Mil side you're already starting to get a little old.

When you're done with your Mil training take a job at Atlas and get a 767 or 747 type... Lately UPS loves a diversified resume like that. If you were to get 1000 PIC with the military or Atlas you'd be scooped up quick.

You're talking about a 5-10 year plan at UPS given what the average Interviewee looks like. Remember that it's not a sprint. It's a marathon!

How does the reserve work? Would I be stationed there for a certain amount of time or is it something that I go every weekend?

Globemaster2827
10-13-2017, 01:46 PM
How does the reserve work? Would I be stationed there for a certain amount of time or is it something that I go every weekend?

Reserve and Air National Guard anchor you to a unit unless you want to switch. If they don't offer you a pilot slot when you've got your degree and some flying under your belt then you can just get out and pursue the regionals (or Atlas... ABX... Kalitta... etc). They'll have still paid for your degree. DO NOT GO ACTIVE DUTY MILITARY.... Under any circumstances. You'll turn around be 30 and will have accomplished nothing toward your goal.

FTFF
10-15-2017, 12:47 PM
Or is this something where I would have to quit my job?

Javier,

First thing to do is take an intro flight somewhere, get a 1st class medical to make sure you don't have any issues, then research the heck out of this career - you need to know what you're getting yourself into or what you may not be willing to get into after having a good look around. Throw away any notion of ever getting on at UPS or wherever else you want to go - you'll go where you get hired. If you're really lucky maybe you can pick and choose but even then you'll probably discover that there are a lot better products on the market than UPS. You may, in fact, get stuck at a regional or one of the less desirable non-legacies, you may have to fly overseas, drones, go back to ground hauling freight if you get furloughed, who knows - but that's the gig if you want it. If you decide to do it then you can't F around - its a HUGE investment of time and $$ with zero, read that again, zero guarantees of ever getting ANY dream job or staying with one for a career. Timing is almost everything and you are already behind your peers so holding a career while trying to knock off this HUGE endeavor isn't the best course of action, IMO. FYI - UPS just hired some 23-24 y.o. superstar... Anyway, scour these forums, go to your local airport and talk to pilots, flight instructors, read the flying magazines front to back... Do all that and the rest will start falling into place. Good luck.

PS. If it's thoughts of making lots of $$ that excites you about the job then turn and run.

birdstrike
10-15-2017, 08:56 PM
Javier, if you can dream it, you can achive it! Your UPS work experience is a huge advantage. If you can accomplish the following, you will get an interview. So let's take this one step at a time:

1- Maintain an impeccable work ethic with your current position. What your supervisors say about you in the future is the key to reaching your goal.

2- Get a 4 year college degree. Get a degree in anything, think of what comes easy to you. What is afordable to you. What is convenient to you. The subject matter is irrelevant, just get a degree. Look into accredited online courses if that is what you can do while working.

3- Get your pilot training and experience. Your training can be done at any local flight school. Look into the smaller airports near you and start flying lessons. Once you have your CFI, you can start instructing and gaining the needed flight hours to land your first flying job. The internship with Ameriflight is an excellent goal to have but first you must have some experience.

Keep your boss in the loop. Let everyone know you plan to be a UPS pilot some day. They will help hold you accountable to your goal. This worked for me it WILL work for you. If you can dream it, you can achieve it!!

Good luck brother, I look forward to flying with you one day!

whalesurfer
10-16-2017, 02:18 AM
Some fantastic advice here! Especially from FTFF and birdstrike. Do your research. ..when ready apply EVERYWHERE! The airline to be at today might be the airline to bail from tomorrow.

Wish you the best, hope you succeed in all your endeavors!

busdriver12
10-16-2017, 12:52 PM
Reserve and Air National Guard anchor you to a unit unless you want to switch. If they don't offer you a pilot slot when you've got your degree and some flying under your belt then you can just get out and pursue the regionals (or Atlas... ABX... Kalitta... etc). They'll have still paid for your degree. DO NOT GO ACTIVE DUTY MILITARY.... Under any circumstances. You'll turn around be 30 and will have accomplished nothing toward your goal.

Wait, what? I went active duty military, and at age 29, I was an airline pilot. Now you can probably get there faster in the Guard, particularly since the commitment has increased, but active duty will still get you there (as long as you get to fly). Unless you are talking about enlisting active duty or getting a non-flying slot, then yeah, you're right.