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Mighty90
10-26-2017, 06:09 AM
I'm starting new hire FO training 28 Nov 17. Can anyone offer insight as to the typical SWA holiday (Christmas/New Year's) training schedule? Any time off on/near those holidays for planning purposes (I'm sure it's not much-better get used to that, right?)? Thanks.


flyguy81
10-26-2017, 07:17 PM
I'm starting new hire FO training 28 Nov 17. Can anyone offer insight as to the typical SWA holiday (Christmas/New Year's) training schedule? Any time off on/near those holidays for planning purposes (I'm sure it's not much-better get used to that, right?)? Thanks.

We got 2 off for Xmas and New Years a couple years ago. Youíll get your schedule day 1 so youíll be able to plan a little bit anyway.

TerrainTerrain
10-27-2017, 07:25 AM
Hope you are thirsty.


Peacock
10-27-2017, 10:40 AM
Get ready for about four weeks of training packed into eight weeks

RJSAviator76
10-27-2017, 10:52 AM
Hope you are thirsty.

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e6bpilot
10-27-2017, 11:20 AM
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Bingo. You will know when you need to buckle down and study. Until then, enjoy yourself. Granted, itís a new training program since I did it, but itís not hard.

WDEInTexas
10-29-2017, 08:29 AM
I'm starting new hire FO training 28 Nov 17. Can anyone offer insight as to the typical SWA holiday (Christmas/New Year's) training schedule? Any time off on/near those holidays for planning purposes (I'm sure it's not much-better get used to that, right?)? Thanks.

You will not work Christmas nor probably the day after. I think there is contract language that limits how late you can work Christmas eve and it is likely you will have the day off. (Likely being the keyword there but Christmas IS a day off.)

-Standard new hire schedule is written out below.

-Monday Night, a welcome dinner for yourself and a guest. Good food and you get your wings.
-Tuesday: Official indoc if you will. Introductions for yourself and spouse if you bring him/her. You get all your paperwork in and get your ID and get lunch and hear from management and SWAPA and get your EFB (IPad)
-Wed: Lesson in how to use your EFB, free lunch, uniforms and training center tour so you can find stuff.
-Thursday: Security day.
-Friday: Emergency stuff. O2 masks, life vests, fire extinguisher, life rafts, emergency slide etc
-Sat: QRC/QRH usage, flows, callouts
-Sunday off

Week Two

-Monday: Fly Day. Basically a day about SW culture with other new hires from all departments. Free lunch.
-Tuesday: Computer based training, CBT, on systems (Done on EFB)
-Wed: Senior leadership breakfast in the morning along with drug and alcohol policy and crew planning. More systems CBTs in the afternoon.
-Thursday: Systems CBTs all day. (Can be done wherever you like.)
-Friday: Systems review for all the CBTs in the AM the afternoon is self study and many use this chance to get one of the required jump seat rides and go home as you get Friday and Saturday off.

Week Three

Monday through Thursday: Systems procedures trainers. Basically a review of all the systems in a virtual cockpit.

The next six days you will get an oral review and the oral. Those with type ratings won't get the oral but will still be scheduled for an oral review.

Week Fourish

-Thursday through Wednesday various classroom stuff in various places.
-Friday: off.
-Sat: Automation class
-Sun: Automation class
-Mon-Wed: Automation procedures trainers
-Thur: Off

-Friday:Class 8 to 5
-Saturday: Class 8 to 5

Done with classroom stuff

You will get two FTDs, (Non motion sims) Six sims, one PC, two LOFTs

Done and off to IOE. You may not do IOE at your final domicile.

__________________________

That is the gist of the standard schedule. Having that over Christmas may change things up a bit and as always things can and do change at anytime.

bitatasg
10-30-2017, 07:17 AM
I was there over Christmas and New Years last year. I had 4 days off for Christmas and 3 for New Years.

DirectenterNAV
10-30-2017, 02:19 PM
What's the time frame between ending training/type ride and starting ioe?

CA1900
10-30-2017, 02:26 PM
What's the time frame between ending training/type ride and starting ioe?

It varies. I had a week; my sim partner had 3 days. A couple guys had just one day off. You can make requests that they'll try and take into consideration when building the IOE schedule. (I asked for "a little time off" as I wanted to reset after two months away, and got the week off.)

Psycho18th
10-30-2017, 04:25 PM
Thereís a minimum number, something like 30 hours. We had folks with long drives and such that asked for and got a couple extra days. Sooner you finish, sooner you start earning for those flights, can pick up extra, can trade trips, etc.

TexasFlight
10-31-2017, 04:55 AM
You will not work Christmas nor probably the day after. I think there is contract language that limits how late you can work Christmas eve and it is likely you will have the day off. (Likely being the keyword there but Christmas IS a day off.)

-Standard new hire schedule is written out below.

-Monday Night, a welcome dinner for yourself and a guest. Good food and you get your wings.
-Tuesday: Official indoc if you will. Introductions for yourself and spouse if you bring him/her. You get all your paperwork in and get your ID and get lunch and hear from management and SWAPA and get your EFB (IPad)
-Wed: Lesson in how to use your EFB, free lunch, uniforms and training center tour so you can find stuff.
-Thursday: Security day.
-Friday: Emergency stuff. O2 masks, life vests, fire extinguisher, life rafts, emergency slide etc
-Sat: QRC/QRH usage, flows, callouts
-Sunday off

Week Two

-Monday: Fly Day. Basically a day about SW culture with other new hires from all departments. Free lunch.
-Tuesday: Computer based training, CBT, on systems (Done on EFB)
-Wed: Senior leadership breakfast in the morning along with drug and alcohol policy and crew planning. More systems CBTs in the afternoon.
-Thursday: Systems CBTs all day. (Can be done wherever you like.)
-Friday: Systems review for all the CBTs in the AM the afternoon is self study and many use this chance to get one of the required jump seat rides and go home as you get Friday and Saturday off.

Week Three

Monday through Thursday: Systems procedures trainers. Basically a review of all the systems in a virtual cockpit.

The next six days you will get an oral review and the oral. Those with type ratings won't get the oral but will still be scheduled for an oral review.

Week Fourish

-Thursday through Wednesday various classroom stuff in various places.
-Friday: off.
-Sat: Automation class
-Sun: Automation class
-Mon-Wed: Automation procedures trainers
-Thur: Off

-Friday:Class 8 to 5
-Saturday: Class 8 to 5

Done with classroom stuff

You will get two FTDs, (Non motion sims) Six sims, one PC, two LOFTs

Done and off to IOE. You may not do IOE at your final domicile.

__________________________

That is the gist of the standard schedule. Having that over Christmas may change things up a bit and as always things can and do change at anytime.


Great write up! Thanks for taking the time to do that. Sounds like an actual training program now, especially like the Procedures Trainer aspect of it. When I went through a couple years ago there were actually senior leaders in the training center telling classes all you need to study is the Lights and Switches guide.

at6d
10-31-2017, 08:24 AM
A couple of years ago the majority of newhires had the type...there were only five or six out of the 26 in my class without it.

We also had Thanksgiving, Christmas, and New Year's Day off. I had about two or three days off after training before I started IOE.

WDEInTexas
10-31-2017, 05:14 PM
Great write up! Thanks for taking the time to do that. Sounds like an actual training program now, especially like the Procedures Trainer aspect of it. When I went through a couple years ago there were actually senior leaders in the training center telling classes all you need to study is the Lights and Switches guide.

I figured it was something that would help and give back a little to the site that was a wealth of info for me when getting to WN.

It at least gives a general idea of what the schedule will be when you arrive.

DirectenterNAV
11-07-2017, 02:05 PM
Do you accrue hotel points in training?
On the road?
If you don't get points, does anyone know if they can put them in as qualifying stays?

I only ask because I'm coming from the charter side where points are a perk, and I'm still hunting my "Hilton Honors Diamond Lifetime membership"
Free powdered eggs for life!

Peacock
11-07-2017, 02:10 PM
Do you accrue hotel points in training?
On the road?
If you don't get points, does anyone know if they can put them in as qualifying stays?

I only ask because I'm coming from the charter side where points are a perk, and I'm still hunting my "Hilton Honors Diamond Lifetime membership"
Free powdered eggs for life!

Short answer: no

However some in my training class had varying success getting points/nights credited for the 50+ nights we stayed at the Hilton, depending on how many times they called and who they talked to.

Checking into hotels on the road, they have your room keys waiting for you so I don't think those are eligible for getting nights/points but I could be wrong.

RJSAviator76
11-07-2017, 03:42 PM
I got hotel points at the Sheraton because I didn't get my room serviced every day. That was the trick for getting the points with them... Not sure how it works with Hilton.

ZapBrannigan
11-07-2017, 03:56 PM
You can always leave a credit card on file and get a few points for whatever you eat/drink. But it was very rare to get the stay credit. I tried for a few months after I got hired and after a while I gave up.

BUT... you CAN convert your SWAG points (perfect attendance) into Rapid Rewards points and use it to buy Space positive tickets for your family vacations a few times a year. Saves me easily $2000 per year on family travel without the stress of trying to nonrev!


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e6bpilot
11-07-2017, 06:06 PM
Hiltons on the road are hit or miss. Mostly miss. You can usually get lounge access but not stay credit or points for anything but room charges.
Marriotts are much more accommodating.
I use the doubletree in Houston as a commuter hotel, and although I donít stay there often the nights add up. At $90 it isnít cheap, but it is by far the best commuter hotel there and the free breakfast and stay credit makes it worth the extra coin.

at6d
11-07-2017, 10:39 PM
I was a corporate guy. I was able to get free breakfast and an appetizer at the Hilton Arden West in SMF and a few others until my Hilton Gold ran out after a year.

STL will give points. Some give stay credits, but other than that, your status will decline.

Commuter hotels is the only way Iíve been able to gain good pointsósome pilots go for various Hilton Honors credit cards, or like the above post put a card down when they check in.

I was able to get two free nights worth of Sheraton points like the above room cleaning deal while in training.

e6bpilot
11-08-2017, 09:46 AM
I was a corporate guy. I was able to get free breakfast and an appetizer at the Hilton Arden West in SMF and a few others until my Hilton Gold ran out after a year.



STL will give points. Some give stay credits, but other than that, your status will decline.



Commuter hotels is the only way Iíve been able to gain good pointsósome pilots go for various Hilton Honors credit cards, or like the above post put a card down when they check in.



I was able to get two free nights worth of Sheraton points like the above room cleaning deal while in training.



Pro tip - Arden West gives lounge access to all crew keys. Other than that and a decent gym, the hotel is completely devoid of positive attributes.
The van driver will take you to in n out too. I tipped in cheeseburger last time I went.

e6bpilot
11-08-2017, 09:48 AM
Also, not to get too far off track, but yes, having a card that gets you hotel status or points is helpful. I use amex platinum. The annual fee hurts, but I extract over double the value of the fee every year. If you are still in the military the annual fee is waived.

Mighty90
11-10-2017, 05:42 AM
Hope you are thirsty.
Ha - that's a great graphic! Says it all...

Mighty90
11-10-2017, 05:47 AM
You will not work Christmas nor probably the day after. I think there is contract language that limits how late you can work Christmas eve and it is likely you will have the day off. (Likely being the keyword there but Christmas IS a day off.)

-Standard new hire schedule is written out below.

-Monday Night, a welcome dinner for yourself and a guest. Good food and you get your wings.
-Tuesday: Official indoc if you will. Introductions for yourself and spouse if you bring him/her. You get all your paperwork in and get your ID and get lunch and hear from management and SWAPA and get your EFB (IPad)
-Wed: Lesson in how to use your EFB, free lunch, uniforms and training center tour so you can find stuff.
-Thursday: Security day.
-Friday: Emergency stuff. O2 masks, life vests, fire extinguisher, life rafts, emergency slide etc
-Sat: QRC/QRH usage, flows, callouts
-Sunday off

Week Two

-Monday: Fly Day. Basically a day about SW culture with other new hires from all departments. Free lunch.
-Tuesday: Computer based training, CBT, on systems (Done on EFB)
-Wed: Senior leadership breakfast in the morning along with drug and alcohol policy and crew planning. More systems CBTs in the afternoon.
-Thursday: Systems CBTs all day. (Can be done wherever you like.)
-Friday: Systems review for all the CBTs in the AM the afternoon is self study and many use this chance to get one of the required jump seat rides and go home as you get Friday and Saturday off.

Week Three

Monday through Thursday: Systems procedures trainers. Basically a review of all the systems in a virtual cockpit.

The next six days you will get an oral review and the oral. Those with type ratings won't get the oral but will still be scheduled for an oral review.

Week Fourish

-Thursday through Wednesday various classroom stuff in various places.
-Friday: off.
-Sat: Automation class
-Sun: Automation class
-Mon-Wed: Automation procedures trainers
-Thur: Off

-Friday:Class 8 to 5
-Saturday: Class 8 to 5

Done with classroom stuff

You will get two FTDs, (Non motion sims) Six sims, one PC, two LOFTs

Done and off to IOE. You may not do IOE at your final domicile.

__________________________

That is the gist of the standard schedule. Having that over Christmas may change things up a bit and as always things can and do change at anytime.


Thanks for the detailed info!