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UAL T38 Phlyer
11-22-2017, 03:32 AM
Apparently a C-2 crashed/ditched near Okinawa. So far, 8....of 11...safely recovered. :(

Been a rough week. Keeping the faith for the remaining three.


Beech Dude
11-22-2017, 06:46 PM
Prayers to our Navy brethren and the Red Bulls at XL.

UAL T38 Phlyer
11-24-2017, 06:20 AM
Search for the three missing is suspended. :(

Fair winds; following seas.


USMCFLYR
11-24-2017, 12:20 PM
Fair winds and following seas.

Hetman
11-24-2017, 03:19 PM
Eternal Father strong to save
Whose arm has bound the restless wave
Who bids the mighty ocean deep
It's own appointed limits keep
O hear us when we cry to Thee
For those in Peril on the sea

Oh Christ whose voice the waters heard
And hushed their raging at Thy word
Who walkest on the foamy deep
And how amidst the storm did sleep
O hear us when we cry to Thee
For those in Peril on the sea

Eternal Father strong to save
Whose arm has bound the restless wave,
Who bids the mighty ocean deep
It's own appointed limits keep,
O hear us when we cry to Thee
For those in Peril on the sea.

Oh Christ, the Lord of hill and plain,
O'er which our traffic runs amain.
By mountain pass or valley low,
Wherever, Lord our brethren go
Protect them by Thy guarding hand
From every peril on the land

O Spirit, whom the Father sent
To spread abroad the firmament.
Oh wind of heaven, by Thy might
Save all who dare the eagle's flight.
And keep them by thy watchful care
From every peril in the air

O Trinity of love and power,
Our brethren shield in danger's hour.
From rock and tempest, fire, and foe
Protect them wheresoe'er they go.
That evermore shall rise to Thee,
Glad praise from air and land and sea

angry tanker
11-24-2017, 08:26 PM
Just read an article about how they lost an engine and then ditched. Is there not a way to fly the C2 on 1 engine and either land on the carrier or return to port? Thanks

US Navy pilot pulled heroic landing that saved 8 after engine failure - Business Insider (http://www.businessinsider.com/us-navy-pilot-pulled-heroic-landing-that-saved-8-after-engine-failure-2017-11)

RhinoBallAuto
11-25-2017, 05:30 AM
Just read an article about how they lost an engine and then ditched. Is there not a way to fly the C2 on 1 engine and either land on the carrier or return to port? Thanks



Some actual COD guys can weigh in, but as a couple were explaining to me Wednesday, the props are prone to fail to feather during engine failure. When an engine fails at certain power settings, the aircraft is not flyable.

Also, if it occurs in an approach/landing configuration, youíre quickly running out of options. However, thatís in close proximity to the ship, so plane guard would be right on the spot, which would make rescue/recovery pretty timely. I donít know if this was the case not.

FWIW, a news report I heard yesterday assumed that both engines had failed. I would say that is speculation at best right now, but I guess it is at least a possibility.

In any case, ditching is rarely survivable. The crew up front deserves a lot of credit, without a doubt

rickair7777
11-25-2017, 06:22 AM
On any aircraft of that general configuration, if you have an engine fail + Fx fail, you're not going to be flying for long, unless you're really light and even then it may not be possible.

You go from having an engine on that side, to having a gi-normous ram air turbine that's driving a gearbox, N1 spool, and sucking air through an N2 spool with all compressors and accessories.

At first blush I have to give them credit for making the hard call to ditch and saving some lives, as opposed to trying to save it... and doing a full Vmc demo.

You can be in the very tough situation of having to idle the good engine and revert to glider mode... not sure about CODs but typically pilots aren't trained to do that, you have to figure it out yourself, maybe when the Vmc roll starts...

Rosey
11-25-2017, 09:37 AM
Not completely sure about the C-2 but I have good friends who flew both the C-2 and E-2; I believe both have similar engines, configurations, and comparable handling characteristics. I know of many pilots who have successfully brought an E-2 aboard the boat single engine. In fact, here's a picture of a good friend of mine doing so (note feathered and stationary prop on port engine)...

Navy.mil - View Image (http://www.navy.mil/view_image.asp?id=12384)
http://www.navy.mil/management/photodb/photos/030528-N-0295M-017.jpg
As others have alluded to, though, whether or not that aircraft can successfully recover aboard the boat depends greatly on the nature and the timing of the engine failure.

Regarding the three personnel we lost, God Bless them and their families.

2StgTurbine
11-25-2017, 01:09 PM
In fact, here's a picture of a good friend of mine doing so (note feathered and stationary prop on port engine)...

I can't even imagine how a bolter could be handled with an engine shutdown!

CRJ1000
11-25-2017, 05:13 PM
RIP

Navy identifies Sailors lost in C-2A crash > Commander, U.S. 7th Fleet > Display (http://www.c7f.navy.mil/Media/News/Display/Article/1380397/navy-identifies-sailors-lost-in-c-2a-crash/)



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