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btodd77
12-05-2017, 10:35 AM
Forgetting about lost seniority and such. Is it possible to delay a class once hired?? Have previous obligations in June that would interfere with training, etc... so question becomes could one interview and get hired in the first couple months of the year, but delay start date until 7/1 or so??
Thanks in advance guys.


Proximity
12-05-2017, 10:37 AM
Forgetting about lost seniority and such. Is it possible to delay a class once hired?? Have previous obligations in June that would interfere with training, etc... so question becomes could one interview and get hired in the first couple months of the year, but delay start date until 7/1 or so??
Thanks in advance guys.

If the obligation is going to be after you finish training, there is always a way to get days off. I would start as soon as possible. Tell them you are available to move up if a slot comes up in an earlier class.

ZapBrannigan
12-05-2017, 11:48 AM
If the obligation is going to be after you finish training, there is always a way to get days off. I would start as soon as possible. Tell them you are available to move up if a slot comes up in an earlier class.


Yes. This. Youíve clearly never been furloughed from anywhere or you would know to beg, borrow, steal, claw your way to just one more seniority number.


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Ihateusernames
12-05-2017, 12:59 PM
Yes. This. Youíve clearly never been furloughed from anywhere or you would know to beg, borrow, steal, claw your way to just one more seniority number.


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Or be couple numbers from the base you want to be at and never get in for years. But do what you need to do. More furlough fodder for someone else.


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btodd77
12-05-2017, 01:30 PM
Yes. This. Youíve clearly never been furloughed from anywhere or you would know to beg, borrow, steal, claw your way to just one more seniority number.


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Zap...i understand the seniority game infinitely and been furloughed before, but circumstances dictate that any start date has to be after July 1. I do appreciate the candor though guys and all the info that has been provided in this and other threads. Lots to consider with a potential change. Just trying to decide if next app window is the time or wait until springtime.

Otterbox
12-05-2017, 03:41 PM
Zap...i understand the seniority game infinitely and been furloughed before, but circumstances dictate that any start date has to be after July 1. I do appreciate the candor though guys and all the info that has been provided in this and other threads. Lots to consider with a potential change. Just trying to decide if next app window is the time or wait until springtime.


Easiest thing to do is every window with an availability date of 1 July.

afxc1627
12-05-2017, 05:50 PM
Easiest thing to do is every window with an availability date of 1 July.

This.... I applied to a December window and chose a February interview. Hired in March but couldnít start until late July. I had it on the resume from the start. When they called in March to see when I wanted to start I told them I couldnít start until July. I got a few more calls over the months and I politely declined. Then in June, they called with a July class date that worked for me.

Skyward
12-05-2017, 11:13 PM
SW allows you to defer a class date one time

Albief15
12-06-2017, 12:27 AM
If the obligation is interviewing at Delta, United, or FedEx then it might be worth the delay.

If its to attend a friend's wedding, get new friends. If its to watch a kid be born, skype works fine for Navy guys--it will work for you too. :p

ZapBrannigan
12-06-2017, 03:14 AM
If If its to watch a kid be born, skype works fine for Navy guys--it will work for you too. :p


No. This is the one event that I would not miss. Skype? Seriously? No. The good news is that at most of the Airlines where Iíve worked ď, if you explain the situation theyíll let you show up, get your ID and a number, then go out on family leave for a few weeks when the baby is born.

Of all of the amazing advice Albie offers, I think this one is a swing and a miss.


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Skyward
12-06-2017, 06:12 AM
If the obligation is interviewing at Delta, United, or FedEx then it might be worth the delay.

If its to attend a friend's wedding, get new friends. If its to watch a kid be born, skype works fine for Navy guys--it will work for you too. :p

Sure you donít have that backwards? Pretty sure SWA would insist you be there for your kidís birth. Lol

flyguy81
12-06-2017, 07:01 AM
I know guys given time off during training for their honeymoon, birth of a kid, funeral. Theyíll tell you to give them a call when you want to come back and theyíll slot you in.

Get on the seniority list and figure the rest out later. Thereís no issue getting leave with no pay for something important.

kc10/c130
12-06-2017, 10:43 AM
If the obligation is interviewing at Delta, United, or FedEx then it might be worth the delay.

If its to attend a friend's wedding, get new friends. If its to watch a kid be born, skype works fine for Navy guys--it will work for you too. :p

I just about fell out of my chair laughing!!! As always, you are cracking me up. But that is easy to do on a Toluca layover. Keep em coming.

Albief15
12-06-2017, 08:55 PM
Okay....slowly....

:p implies humor, joking, sarcasm, or just silliness.

I was kidding. I was there to cut the cord for all 3 of my daughters...suggest you do all you can to be there too for yours.

Seniority is important. (Read Timing your exit). Delaying class can cost you for decades. Right now I sit on the bubble of being able to hold a reserve line (a desired outcome) or not in Hong Kong by 1-2 numbers. This month I got the last one. It counts...even 16 years after being hired. Go if you possibly can...

Except....IF you are a wannabe somewhere else, have an interview, and do not want want to kill your bird in hand...then my (no smiley serious) advice is delay and put your 100% focus on the interview. You will do better, and you won't screw up your current indoc/sim training by being @$$holes and elbows during a very critical period at your new (in this case Swa) company. Get the job, or not...but show up wherever you get hired ready to learn. Washing out or getting fired on probation is very rare, but it does happen, and getting subsequent opportunities then gets much more difficult.

This advice is not SWA specific. I would tell a guy the same thing if he rolled a Delta class to interview at a carrier he wanted more. Protect the bird in hand. If you can complete training before the next interview...that is different. Hit the line, then go interview at your next place.

WDEInTexas
12-09-2017, 06:11 PM
One number. My airline furloughed after 9-11 and I sat one number above the bottom for three years until people started coming back behind that. One class later and it would have been three years looking for another job.

WN WILL get you time off if you have a must attend event especially if let them know upfront about it and it isn't an interview elsewhere.

BarrySeal
12-09-2017, 06:30 PM
Forgetting about lost seniority and such. Is it possible to delay a class once hired?? Have previous obligations in June that would interfere with training, etc... so question becomes could one interview and get hired in the first couple months of the year, but delay start date until 7/1 or so??
Thanks in advance guys.

Millennial ?

Qotsaautopilot
12-10-2017, 06:05 AM
Zap...i understand the seniority game infinitely and been furloughed before, but circumstances dictate that any start date has to be after July 1. I do appreciate the candor though guys and all the info that has been provided in this and other threads. Lots to consider with a potential change. Just trying to decide if next app window is the time or wait until springtime.

So you havenít even applied? Are you expecting that they will call you for an interview as soon as you do? If so, I suggest you aply ASAP and worry about class dates if and when you even interview. Maybe Iím misunderstanding you.

flensr
12-10-2017, 07:45 AM
Put down a realistic availability date and submit the app. Don't make it a drama, let the hiring people at SWA decide if your availability date is ok for any particular window.

at6d
12-10-2017, 06:08 PM
Get the offer and then worry about it.

Skyward
12-10-2017, 11:43 PM
So you havenít even applied? Are you expecting that they will call you for an interview as soon as you do? If so, I suggest you aply ASAP and worry about class dates if and when you even interview. Maybe Iím misunderstanding you.

Yeah, no kidding. It took me almost 10years to get a call with no blems, 121PIC, degree, etc.

btodd77
12-11-2017, 08:28 AM
This.... I applied to a December window and chose a February interview. Hired in March but couldnít start until late July. I had it on the resume from the start. When they called in March to see when I wanted to start I told them I couldnít start until July. I got a few more calls over the months and I politely declined. Then in June, they called with a July class date that worked for me.

Thanks bud.

BarrySeal
12-12-2017, 11:28 AM
Forgetting about lost seniority and such. Is it possible to delay a class once hired?? Have previous obligations in June that would interfere with training, etc... so question becomes could one interview and get hired in the first couple months of the year, but delay start date until 7/1 or so??
Thanks in advance guys.

you posted this on Dec-1:

Any whispers on when the next application window will open up??

My recommendation is



Apply
get the interview
pass interview
then call us back.



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