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Green Squirrel
12-18-2017, 12:44 PM
So, going into HNL yesterday and heard an AAL crew tell HNL approach they arenít approved for the LDA 26L. It appeared to be an A330.

Is this true? Youíd think an A330 would be capable of such an approach.

Thank you in advance.


450knotOffice
12-18-2017, 05:31 PM
Afaik, we only fly 321ís, 757ís, and 777í into HNL. Not sure which one of those maybe canít do an LDA. We can in the 321ís, at least.

TheRaven
12-18-2017, 05:48 PM
Afaik, we only fly 321ís, 757ís, and 777í into HNL. Not sure which one of those maybe canít do an LDA. We can in the 321ís, at least.

They fly a 330 to/from PHX


Al Czervik
12-18-2017, 06:19 PM
So, going into HNL yesterday and heard an AAL crew tell HNL approach they arenít approved for the LDA 26L. It appeared to be an A330.

Is this true? Youíd think an A330 would be capable of such an approach.

Thank you in advance.


Are you asking if the plane is capable of doing it or if they are approved to do it?

A330FoodCritic
12-19-2017, 01:41 AM
So, going into HNL yesterday and heard an AAL crew tell HNL approach they aren’t approved for the LDA 26L. It appeared to be an A330.

Is this true? You’d think an A330 would be capable of such an approach.

Thank you in advance.

LDA/GS and LDA/DME with GS are authorized.

Arado 234
12-19-2017, 07:15 AM
It probably is more a certification (aka money) issue than a capability issue.

I could be wrong, but I don't think LDAs or BCs approaches were ever allowed in Europe.

A330FoodCritic
12-19-2017, 01:37 PM
So, going into HNL yesterday and heard an AAL crew tell HNL approach they aren’t approved for the LDA 26L. It appeared to be an A330.

Is this true? You’d think an A330 would be capable of such an approach.

Thank you in advance.


https://resources.globalair.com/dtpp/globalair_00754LDA26L.PDF

I don't see why not.

Well when you put it in the box, if you have a GS (i.e. 3.0) between way points.

We do side steps in training. Sometimes you gotta earn that pilot pay.

Green Squirrel
12-20-2017, 09:56 AM
So- are we surmising the crew just didn't want to do the approach, and was gaming for some other method to get in to HNL?

Or was there an MEL that limited their abilities to do an LDA? I don't know, just throwing out ideas.

Which would be a bummer, since they specifically stated- "We are not authorized for the LDA."

ridinhigh
12-20-2017, 11:07 AM
Maybe they wanted to practice the RNP?
just an idea.

M20 Pilot
12-21-2017, 02:46 PM
I don't see LDA without a GS listed as an authorized procedure in the AA A330 OM.....

A330FoodCritic
12-21-2017, 04:30 PM
I don't see LDA without a GS listed as an authorized procedure in the AA A330 OM.....

You are so correct, there isn't a GS published. The approach appears so simple compared to all that ZRH engine out stuff they just had us do in the simulator.

Seems like the A330 would not be authorized, but the little Bus would be.

Capable yes, authorized no.