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Lockheed Connie
01-24-2018, 07:29 PM
Hi folks,

Just wondering if anyone knows which of the domestic and foreign automakers still have corporate flight departments?

Back in 2009 Ford, GM & Chrysler supposedly got rid of theirs. However, WCF Aviation at the Dassault facility at Detroit Metro has a 900 EX which I believe is William Clay Ford's.

No idea what GM has but you'd imagine they have something going. They used to have GMATS at Detroit Metro but like Ford supposedly shut down their flt dept after the 2008 dustup when they, Ford and Chrysler execs flew to DC to ask for bailout money.

I think Toyota is now in McKinney Tx with their AirFlite operation?

Fiat-Chrysler is a puzzle as well but again, you'd imagine CEO Sergio Marchionne must be flying something between Detroit and Turin.

Volkswagen AG has four 7Xs in Wolfsburg, Germany under the Volkswagen Air Service/ Lion Air Services banner as far as I know, anything else?

How about Nissan, BMW, Mercedes, Porsche, Hyundai/Kia, etc? Does anyone know if they operate corporate flight departments as well?

Any gouge would be appreciated!


Falcondrivr
01-25-2018, 01:18 PM
Porsche is part of VW.

Vital Signs
01-25-2018, 03:38 PM
Are you writing a term paper?


Lockheed Connie
01-25-2018, 05:28 PM
Yes I'm aware Porsche is part of VW and no, not writing a term paper.

I asked the question, musing on the fact that it's been 10 years since the financial crisis and the widely trumpeted divestment of corporate jets/flight departments by the domestic automakers.

With a decade now passed, what are Ford, GM and Fiat Chrysler flying these days? In addition, what are foreign manufacturers flying?

It's a pretty simple question. However, it's not easily answered in all cases as the manufacturers are sensitive about listing their aviation assets.

So, can anyone shed some light?

Red Forman
01-25-2018, 06:08 PM
Yes, Toyota is now in McKinney.

HwkrPlt
01-25-2018, 06:17 PM
Nissan has a G650 and a G280, I do believe. N155AN and N370Z

Tadertot
01-26-2018, 06:02 AM
Used to fly with an ex-Ford pilot. Was my understanding that years after they dumped the department, Ford set up a management company and operated a much smaller flight department that way. Think some went back but most had already moved on.

OldRhinebeck
01-26-2018, 06:09 AM
Hi folks,

Just wondering if anyone knows which of the domestic and foreign automakers still have corporate flight departments?

Back in 2009 Ford, GM & Chrysler supposedly got rid of theirs. However, WCF Aviation at the Dassault facility at Detroit Metro has a 900 EX which I believe is William Clay Ford's.

No idea what GM has but you'd imagine they have something going. They used to have GMATS at Detroit Metro but like Ford supposedly shut down their flt dept after the 2008 dustup when they, Ford and Chrysler execs flew to DC to ask for bailout money.

I think Toyota is now in McKinney Tx with their AirFlite operation?

Fiat-Chrysler is a puzzle as well but again, you'd imagine CEO Sergio Marchionne must be flying something between Detroit and Turin.

Volkswagen AG has four 7Xs in Wolfsburg, Germany under the Volkswagen Air Service/ Lion Air Services banner as far as I know, anything else?

How about Nissan, BMW, Mercedes, Porsche, Hyundai/Kia, etc? Does anyone know if they operate corporate flight departments as well?

Any gouge would be appreciated!

Why do you want to know this information? With a join date of January 2018 and only two posts makes me question your intentions...

galaxy flyer
01-26-2018, 08:30 AM
More pointedly, are you a journalist seeking to write a story on the luxurious ways of auto execs?

GF

OldRhinebeck
01-27-2018, 05:09 PM
Actions, or lack there of, speak louder than words...