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sierralima
03-04-2018, 07:17 AM
I see what's on the website, but it's vague. What are the details?

What's your take-home pay really look like? How many hours are you actually flying?
What's the deal with UP TO 25K sign on bonus?
What sort of standby priority do you get when flying on Alaska? Can Horizon pilots jumpseat on other airlines?
What are the health plans?
What are the performance bonuses?

Sorry if it's been asked before. I did do a search...
Thanks!


cactusflyer
03-04-2018, 11:03 PM
I see what's on the website, but it's vague. What are the details?

What's your take-home pay really look like? How many hours are you actually flying?
What's the deal with UP TO 25K sign on bonus?
What sort of standby priority do you get when flying on Alaska? Can Horizon pilots jumpseat on other airlines?
What are the health plans?
What are the performance bonuses?

Sorry if it's been asked before. I did do a search...
Thanks!

I can't speak to the pay (since I assume you're asking about FO pay), but the amount flown depends on the aircraft type and whether you're reserve or a lineholder.

As a lineholder on the Q400, I typically credit about 75hrs a month, but I've broken 90 hrs a couple of times on reserve during the meltdown at QX last summer.

Our priority on Alaska is pretty terrible. On Alaska, anyone who works for Alaska/Virgin gets priority over us, as do their guests, parents, or retirees. If you're traveling outside of peak times, it's usually not too bad to get on a flight, but trying to go somewhere popular at peak times (like Mexico during spring break) probably won't work.

Horizon/Alaska has jumpseat agreements with most airlines in the US, although there can be occasional confusion as to which airline we actually work for when trying to list for a jumpseat.

Someone will correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe we only offer a high-deductible plan for new hires, which has no monthly premiums, but a $2k deductible. We have decent dental insurance (it'll cover cleanings, but caps out at $2k/yr for other stuff), and vision insurance, which are included with the normal healthcare.

Bonuses come in two forms, OPR and PBP.

OPR (Operational Performance Rewards) is based on on-time performance and customer survey results, and is up to $100/month.

PBP (Performance Based Pay) is the big annual payout, and is based on a variety of factors, like Air Group profit, Horizon costs, how many of the stupid credit cards our flight attendants sell passengers, etc... During the four years I've been here, the PBP has typically been about 4-5 weeks worth of pay, although the IRS takes a large chunk of that in taxes.

sierralima
03-05-2018, 06:15 AM
I can't speak to the pay (since I assume you're asking about FO pay), but the amount flown depends on the aircraft type and whether you're reserve or a lineholder.

As a lineholder on the Q400, I typically credit about 75hrs a month, but I've broken 90 hrs a couple of times on reserve during the meltdown at QX last summer.

Our priority on Alaska is pretty terrible. On Alaska, anyone who works for Alaska/Virgin gets priority over us, as do their guests, parents, or retirees. If you're traveling outside of peak times, it's usually not too bad to get on a flight, but trying to go somewhere popular at peak times (like Mexico during spring break) probably won't work.

Horizon/Alaska has jumpseat agreements with most airlines in the US, although there can be occasional confusion as to which airline we actually work for when trying to list for a jumpseat.

Someone will correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe we only offer a high-deductible plan for new hires, which has no monthly premiums, but a $2k deductible. We have decent dental insurance (it'll cover cleanings, but caps out at $2k/yr for other stuff), and vision insurance, which are included with the normal healthcare.

Bonuses come in two forms, OPR and PBP.

OPR (Operational Performance Rewards) is based on on-time performance and customer survey results, and is up to $100/month.

PBP (Performance Based Pay) is the big annual payout, and is based on a variety of factors, like Air Group profit, Horizon costs, how many of the stupid credit cards our flight attendants sell passengers, etc... During the four years I've been here, the PBP has typically been about 4-5 weeks worth of pay, although the IRS takes a large chunk of that in taxes.


Thanks! That's all helpful!


Petethedog
03-05-2018, 04:50 PM
Curious about the health benefits as well.... Does Horizon offer PPO? or just HMO?

cactusflyer
03-06-2018, 10:37 AM
The current plan is described as a high deductible PPO, which has the same network (Blue Cross/Blue Shield) as the regular PPO, but costs more if you ever have to use it.

Aside from the higher deductible, (which is $2k for a single person) and maximum out of pocket cost ($3k), the biggest difference is that the high deductible plan doesn't have a separate deductible for prescriptions, since they just count against the overall deductible.

Horizon does include an HSA with the high deductible plan, and for the last few years, the company has contributed $1000 per year (or $2k if there's dependents) to the HSA's.

sssergio
03-07-2018, 10:51 AM
The current plan is described as a high deductible PPO, which has the same network (Blue Cross/Blue Shield) as the regular PPO, but costs more if you ever have to use it.

Aside from the higher deductible, (which is $2k for a single person) and maximum out of pocket cost ($3k), the biggest difference is that the high deductible plan doesn't have a separate deductible for prescriptions, since they just count against the overall deductible.

Horizon does include an HSA with the high deductible plan, and for the last few years, the company has contributed $1000 per year (or $2k if there's dependents) to the HSA's.

What is your monthly premium (employee only, or employee + spouse)?

cactusflyer
03-07-2018, 12:52 PM
I believe the only insurance we now offer new hires is the high deductible plan, which has no premium for just the employee, but is $2,200 annually if you add a spouse.

Fly406
03-10-2018, 04:00 PM
I see what's on the website, but it's vague. What are the details?

What's your take-home pay really look like? How many hours are you actually flying?
What's the deal with UP TO 25K sign on bonus?
What sort of standby priority do you get when flying on Alaska? Can Horizon pilots jumpseat on other airlines?
What are the health plans?
What are the performance bonuses?

Sorry if it's been asked before. I did do a search...
Thanks!

Being that I am just starting but here I can't help you with take-home pay, standby priority, or jump-seat, etc. But here is what I know.

The up to 25k bonus is as follows:

Q400: Sign on pay is 10k (given after completion of IOE), and retention pay at 18 months of service is an additional 5. The rest of it is exp pay given at the end of IOE.
From 500-749hrs in type you get an additional 5k.
From 750hrs up you get an additional 10k.
E175: Sign on pay is only 5k for the E jet, the rest is the same.

I have the form for health benefits and performance pay and all that but I'm not sure if I can post it, so I'll get back to you on that. Hope this helps a little bit!

sierralima
03-11-2018, 06:53 AM
Yeah, that's helpful. Thanks!

Stinger6
03-11-2018, 08:27 AM
Important to note: not all time is created equal. 750 hours instructing in a C172 does not get you to the top of the bonus chart. Part 135 PIC, Part 121 PIC/SIC etc...and there's some kind of consideration for military turbine pilots because there times are always low considering the quality of experience they had.

Etc. Anyway, don't cash the check yet. :)

Stinger6
03-11-2018, 08:27 AM
Ugh. "Their time" not "there time."

fenix1
03-27-2018, 04:04 PM
ďIf Iím here and youíre here, isnít it OUR time??Ē - the Honorable Jeff Spicoli

(Poor) joke aside, how do Horizonís health benefits work out in Medford as something of a smaller community with probably less services than the other 4 bases (all larger communities)?

Ugh. "Their time" not "there time."

cactusflyer
03-27-2018, 08:30 PM
Our benefits health are through Premera Blue Cross, so finding places that accept it should be pretty straightforward somewhere like Medford.

The vision and dental benefits are through companies that are present nationwide (VSP and Delta Dental), so finding someone that takes those should also be relatively easy outside of very small towns.

fenix1
03-27-2018, 10:06 PM
Good stuff - thanks a lot, cactusflyer.

Our benefits health are through Premera Blue Cross, so finding places that accept it should be pretty straightforward somewhere like Medford.

The vision and dental benefits are through companies that are present nationwide (VSP and Delta Dental), so finding someone that takes those should also be relatively easy outside of very small towns.



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