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queue
03-17-2018, 03:10 PM
JetBlue passengers sue airline 4 years after emergency landing

JetBlue passengers sue airline 4 years after emergency landing - NY Daily News (http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/jetblue-passengers-sue-airline-4-years-emergency-landing-article-1.3880008)


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captsurf
03-17-2018, 04:32 PM
JetBlue passengers sue airline 4 years after emergency landing

JetBlue passengers sue airline 4 years after emergency landing - NY Daily News (http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/jetblue-passengers-sue-airline-4-years-emergency-landing-article-1.3880008)



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WHACKMASTER
03-18-2018, 08:05 AM
Pathetic. Utterly pathetic. Instead of being grateful for the professionalism and skill that got their a$$es back on the ground after a severe mechanical failure, they’re suing to get money.

I hate this society more and more everyday, I swear.


N311JB
03-18-2018, 08:57 AM
Pathetic. Utterly pathetic. Instead of being grateful for the professionalism and skill that got their a$$es back on the ground after a severe mechanical failure, they’re suing to get money.

I hate this society more and more everyday, I swear.

What’s worse is the captain is an Awesome dude and one the best pilots I know

feltf4
03-18-2018, 09:40 AM
Think someone caught wind of the southwest incident someone’s sueing for.... “oooooo good idea!”

WhistlePig
03-18-2018, 10:14 AM
Trying to get emotional distress damages is next to impossible when you have a claim. This claim is a nothingburger. Actual physical injuries from the fumes that manifested well after the accident may have legs however.

queue
03-18-2018, 12:02 PM
Yup... have to show harm. Good thing is there is plenty of evolving parallel case law and precedent.

Court determines military burn pits caused lung disease in service members | Fox News (http://www.foxnews.com/world/2018/02/15/court-determines-military-burn-pits-caused-lung-disease-in-service-members.html)

Also, if they got some of JB’s internal emails via subpoena, that could help them too. I saw they are using the “tobacco industry defense” that these “odors” are common and at “levels that are not harmful”. Yes, I know this was a smoke incident vs. the typical bleed air issue, but the root cause is the same.

One only needs to research Aerotoxic Syndrome to get a preponderance of research on the matter. There are more synthetic oil combustion products than just TCP.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aerotoxic_syndrome

The worst part is that you could be a world class triathlon winner then suddenly die from this stuff. The second and third order effects are quite difficult to trace but very real. People may ridicule California (including me) but their hazardous chemical warnings in airports are based on science. Jet fuel, hydraulic fluid, cleaning fluids, oil (dinosaur and synthetic), rain repellant (except for the Airbus kind), fire retardants, etc. are all toxic to us at the metabolic and genetic level. Personally, I don’t buy the arguments that there is nothing else available. Nothing is stopping manufacturers and air carriers from doing the R&D (think airbags).

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queue
03-18-2018, 12:19 PM
What’s worse is the captain is an Awesome dude and one the best pilots I know

I would think nothing would happen to him since he followed SOP and exercised emergency authority under 14 CFR. I kind of doubt he will be held liable. On the other hand, the airline and the manufacturer are fair game. Airbus can’t say the technology employing bleedless air conditioning doesn’t exist because the 787 has it. I believe Airbus has a similar engineering design for a bleedless system but no one wanted it due to the cost of retrofitting.

Also... inert fuel systems like military planes have, was a systemic deficiency mostly solved by requirement. This was a recommendation made after made for civil aircraft after Flight 800 (assuming it wasn’t a missile).

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/TWA_Flight_800

Fuel Tank Vapors Cited As Problem 30 Years Ago - The New York Times (http://www.nytimes.com/1996/12/14/nyregion/fuel-tank-vapors-cited-as-problem-30-years-ago.html)

Officials Say Disputed Rule Might Have Saved Jet - The New York Times (http://www.nytimes.com/1996/10/24/nyregion/officials-say-disputed-rule-might-have-saved-jet.html)

https://www.ainonline.com/aviation-news/aviation-international-news/2011-01-27/faa-finally-takes-action-fuel-inerting

https://www.faa.gov/documentLibrary/media/Advisory_Circular/AC%20120-98A.pdf

So, this lawsuit could solve a major industry problem if played correctly.




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PowderFinger
03-18-2018, 02:43 PM
Think someone caught wind of the southwest incident someone’s sueing for.... “oooooo good idea!”

Yeah ... This sounds about right.

TransWorld
03-18-2018, 02:49 PM
Oh, I was flying in the back one time. Minding my own business, when the airplane hit some rough turbulence. Scared me half to death.

It certainly was not my fault. Have to blame someone else. So I am go to sue the airline. Anyone have the mailing address for PanAm, so my lawyer can have them served with the lawsuit?

tomgoodman
03-18-2018, 04:32 PM
Oh, I was flying in the back one time. Minding my own business, when the airplane hit some rough turbulence. Scared me half to death.

It certainly was not my fault. Have to blame someone else. So I am go to sue the airline. Anyone have the mailing address for PanAm, so my lawyer can have them served with the lawsuit?

I wasn’t on that flight, but just hearing about the turbulence caused me emotional distress. I have been retroactively triggered by proxy! :p

CaptCoolHand
03-19-2018, 03:55 AM
I can't believe they aren't sueing ATC. It's obviously their fault.

Bluedriver
03-20-2018, 02:52 AM
I can't believe they aren't sueing ATC. It's obviously their fault.

For the Win!

Bgood
03-20-2018, 06:11 AM
Oh, I was flying in the back one time. Minding my own business, when the airplane hit some rough turbulence. Scared me half to death.

It certainly was not my fault. Have to blame someone else. So I am go to sue the airline. Anyone have the mailing address for PanAm, so my lawyer can have them served with the lawsuit?

Lol lol that would be due to nature, so no liability on the company....got your point though.



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