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View Full Version : What caused this crash?


SonicFlyer
03-24-2018, 10:32 AM
Any speculation? :confused:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Nxj-_WhJss


TiredSoul
03-24-2018, 12:42 PM
I think the majority of SE piston crashes are due to fuel mismanagement.

Excargodog
03-24-2018, 03:54 PM
I think the majority of SE piston crashes are due to fuel mismanagement.
Actually, the overwhelming majority of them are pilot error, but this one does indeed appear to be logistics related. After flying for a fairly long time and maneuvering without difficulty, the 210 appears to have lost engine power. Most probable cause for that IS fuel mismanagement exhaustion.


TiredSoul
03-24-2018, 04:35 PM
The majority of all accidents is due to pilot error. Like 94% or so.
Statistically the majority of SE piston accidents are caused by duke mismanagement. That’s running outta gas. Closely followed by crashing with an empty tank and a another one that still contains fuel.
https://www.aopa.org/asf/ntsb/maps.cfm

PowderFinger
03-24-2018, 04:51 PM
Tail fell off.

TiredSoul
03-24-2018, 04:55 PM
Tail fell off.
Which is almost always caused by pilot error as they’re not designed to “fall off”.

rickair7777
03-24-2018, 05:28 PM
I think the majority of SE piston crashes are due to fuel mismanagement.


I think the majority are LOC (mainly stall/spin, VFR into IMC).

But in the case where the arrival appeared to be under aerodynamic control like this one, fuel starvation is most likely, followed by engine mechanical failure, which is not really uncommon in ASEL.

JamesNoBrakes
03-24-2018, 09:07 PM
Looks like it was the result of hitting the ground.

TiredSoul
03-24-2018, 09:20 PM
Looks like it was the result of hitting the ground.

Hehehehehehe.....

http://gifimage.net/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/ba-dum-tish-gif-8.gif

SonicFlyer
03-24-2018, 10:17 PM
Well they were only flying for about an hour. Maybe they took off with less than they thought?


But there was no fireball. And if you look at the photos there is only a small amount of fuel on the ground after the crash.

To me that says fuel exhaustion. But I'm not an expert.

RVcruiser
03-27-2018, 12:13 PM
Well they were only flying for about an hour. Maybe they took off with less than they thought?


But there was no fireball. And if you look at the photos there is only a small amount of fuel on the ground after the crash.

To me that says fuel exhaustion. But I'm not an expert.

Did you stay at a Holiday Inn Express?:)

Lahey
03-27-2018, 04:39 PM
Tail fell off.

https://media.giphy.com/media/tA9oMHZ0C1Q0o/giphy.gif

Packrat
03-28-2018, 01:34 PM
Looks like it was the result of hitting the ground.

Rapid onset deceleration.

tm602
03-29-2018, 09:42 AM
At this point, all we know for certain is they ran out of altitude, airspeed and ideas at the same time.



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