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Pilotwhois47yrs
03-30-2018, 04:25 AM
Being an Airline pilot is my second career. As a former, I did almost every job under the sun, being an Airline Pilot is the greatest. Our pay is not the highest and the benefits package sucks, we need to make it better. Yes, our company has issues. What company doesnít?

I worked in a place before MESA where you best watch your own back or you end up dead. I am not saying that we need to role over or bend our backs to the point of breaking. Together, we can have MESA be the ideal place to fly. Yes, it requires the highest level of optimism and dedication. I am up for it and I hope more of my colleagues well be as well.


I am bidding for upgrade as soon as I get 1000 hours 121 time. On the CRJ-side. I welcome all comments and feedback. I have lived a hard life. I am blessed by GOD. I believe that His Son is Jesus and is my savior. AMEN! :)


deltajuliet
03-30-2018, 08:01 AM
Thatís cool youíre religious. I actually am too.

Luke 6:31 says Do to others as you would have them do to you. Thatís a philosophy any man of any creed should be able to get behind. Sadly, Iíve never really seen it in practice here.

We get emails that say ďDo the Right Thing,Ē then the company unilaterally decides not to honor parts of our contract. A good recent example is not paying for hotels in base during weather/mechanical cancellations that lead to unplanned overnights for commuters. Is that what a moral company does?

We have some good people on the line. Iím thankful for them. We also have a few oddballs and jerks, probably the same as anywhere else. But the longer youíre here, and the more history you learn, itís difficult to be optimistic.

(Truthfully, a pilot group with a healthy dose of cynicism is probably best equipped for negotiations too)

No Land 3
03-30-2018, 08:15 AM
Thereís a fine line between a good attitude and having Stockholm Syndrome. You can talk yourself into any situation. At Mesa, the really good points exist everywhere else. The really, really good points elsewhere, I promise you, do not exist at Mesa.
It comes down to how much you value yourself. Yes, Iíve been on the outside looking in, and I know all too well what a real job is like, that does not give you the right to de-value this profession with accepting lower standards.


Pilotwhois47yrs
03-30-2018, 02:17 PM
Thereís a fine line between a good attitude and having Stockholm Syndrome. You can talk yourself into any situation. At Mesa, the really good points exist everywhere else. The really, really good points elsewhere, I promise you, do not exist at Mesa.
It comes down to how much you value yourself. Yes, Iíve been on the outside looking in, and I know all too well what a real job is like, that does not give you the right to de-value this profession with accepting lower standards.


Please I ask, to what standards are you referring?

calmwinds
03-30-2018, 03:00 PM
Please I ask, to what standards are you referring?

His opinion of Mesaís standards, which are a bit dated.

Enjoy being a CA. Remember, what it was like to be an FO, what a CA that you enjoyed flying with was like, and model his behavior when you sit in the left seat. Above all, remember, the people sitting behind us in the plane are the ones who really pay our paycheck. Keep them safe and keep them wanting to fly us again.

HandyUghes
03-30-2018, 05:16 PM
MESA isn't an acronym, it's a word: Mesa.

Anyway, your post is pure insanity and seems pretty naive.

WesternSkies
03-30-2018, 07:53 PM
This thread went full Mesa.

Out Of Trim
03-30-2018, 10:23 PM
This thread went full Mesa.

Yup. All in the first page. :(
Time to bail already.

No Land 3
03-30-2018, 10:26 PM
Yup. All in the first page. :(
Time to bail already.

Now thatís the positive spirit Mesa needs!!

Pilotwhois47yrs
03-31-2018, 02:10 AM
MESA isn't an acronym, it's a word: Mesa.

Anyway, your post is pure insanity and seems pretty naive.


Thank you for the feedback grammar po-po.

khsgt
03-31-2018, 02:25 AM
Mesa = Make Everyone Suffer Always...

calmwinds
03-31-2018, 03:50 AM
Mesa = Make Everyone Suffer Always...

You mean MESA, not Mesa.....

PowderFinger
03-31-2018, 03:59 AM
Mesa = Make Everyone Suffer Always...

Is it Always or Airways? I have always wondered.

Itsajob
04-09-2018, 08:42 AM
Compared to life at the majors, all of the regionals stink. Mesa isnít always a user friendly place to work, but you will fly hard, upgrade faster than other companies, and then be competitive when applying to the company that you want to retire from. Sounds like youíve been through worse than Mesa will dish out. Build your resume as fast as you can and then start looking for a better life. The competition is intense so it wonít happen overnight, but keep plugging away and someone will call if you cast a wide net.