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aajones5
04-09-2018, 06:41 AM
Hey everyone, so I've got my commercial ticket approx. 370TT 280PIC almost done with multi and CFI and a year away from a 4 year degree. My goal is really just to get to one of these two companies as fast as possible and so far it seems like my best option would be to go Ameriflight once i get the hours, but I'm willing to take any path that will get me to my goal the fastest. For people working at UPS of FedEx, what were the paths y'all took and how long did it take you to get there?
I'd appreciate any advice y'all can give me.


No Land 3
04-09-2018, 07:03 AM
Hey everyone, so I've got my commercial ticket approx. 370TT 280PIC almost done with multi and CFI and a year away from a 4 year degree. My goal is really just to get to one of these two companies as fast as possible and so far it seems like my best option would be to go Ameriflight once i get the hours, but I'm willing to take any path that will get me to my goal the fastest. For people working at UPS of FedEx, what were the paths y'all took and how long did it take you to get there?
I'd appreciate any advice y'all can give me.

You should ask this question on the Fed Ex or UPS forum.

cliffnd
04-09-2018, 07:50 AM
Hey everyone, so I've got my commercial ticket approx. 370TT 280PIC almost done with multi and CFI and a year away from a 4 year degree. My goal is really just to get to one of these two companies as fast as possible and so far it seems like my best option would be to go Ameriflight once i get the hours, but I'm willing to take any path that will get me to my goal the fastest. For people working at UPS of FedEx, what were the paths y'all took and how long did it take you to get there?

I'd appreciate any advice y'all can give me.



I was 43 when hired at Purple. 20 years of active duty. Definitely not the fastest, but the "check of the month club" gives me a little consolation. I would say the fastest route is wherever you can get 1000 turbine pic the fastest. My guess is some sort of full time reserve job flying cargo or maybe the regionals if you can upgrade quickly. Based on hiring over the past couple of years, my guess is you'll be at least 30ish+/- by the time you get the hours.

Best of luck. Love Purple!


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TiredSoul
04-09-2018, 08:05 AM
Finish your degree
Instruct till you can get on with PlaneSense or similar ( 1 year)
With ATP go to Regionals
Upgrade at said regional ( 2 years)
Fly 1000 TPIC ( 2 years)
Start applying at FedEx and UPS
Apply with an ACMI to get “heavy longhaul” time till you get hired.
So realistic minimum 5-7 years from now.
Up to never.....

No Land 3
04-09-2018, 10:33 AM
I would also suggest jump seating on both Fed Ex and UPS when you are at a regional to make sure it is actually what you want to do. I can’t think of a better way of getting acquainted with their way of life.

Precontact
04-09-2018, 01:21 PM
https://w3.ameriflight.com/ameriflight-signs-gateway-program-agreement-with-ups-airlines/

Out Of Trim
04-11-2018, 07:49 AM
Hey everyone, so I've got my commercial ticket approx. 370TT 280PIC almost done with multi and CFI and a year away from a 4 year degree. My goal is really just to get to one of these two companies as fast as possible and so far it seems like my best option would be to go Ameriflight once i get the hours, but I'm willing to take any path that will get me to my goal the fastest. For people working at UPS of FedEx, what were the paths y'all took and how long did it take you to get there?
I'd appreciate any advice y'all can give me.

Don’t use y’all.:D

Seriously, be persistent yet respectful in your communications with them. If there’s one thing that goes a long way it’s the realization that you are genuinely interested in their specific company, as you’ve stated here. Good luck Sir!

vano
04-12-2018, 06:33 AM
Finish your degree
Instruct till you can get on with PlaneSense or similar ( 1 year)
With ATP go to Regionals
Upgrade at said regional ( 2 years)
Fly 1000 TPIC ( 2 years)
Start applying at FedEx and UPS
Apply with an ACMI to get “heavy longhaul” time till you get hired.
So realistic minimum 5-7 years from now.
Up to never.....

Nothing wrong with the example by itself - but you do have to replace "realistic" with "extremely optimistic 5-7 years"
C'mon Don't lie to the kids! it is an airline industry he is interested in afterall..
You forgot to through in a furlough or two, with years of non-flying and than years of trying to get back to flying..

So...honestly 12-20 years would be more on the "realistic" side.

BigC208
04-12-2018, 08:12 AM
Nothing wrong with the example by itself - but you do have to replace "realistic" with "extremely optimistic 5-7 years"
C'mon Don't lie to the kids! it is an airline industry he is interested in afterall..
You forgot to through in a furlough or two, with years of non-flying and than years of trying to get back to flying..

So...honestly 12-20 years would be more on the "realistic" side.

He can join Mountain Air Cargo or Empire and join the Purple Runway (google it) program! That’s the shortest way into a FedEx Mainline aircraft. That’s what we’ve been told by management on April the second.

vano
04-12-2018, 04:16 PM
He can join Mountain Air Cargo or Empire and join the Purple Runway (google it) program! That’s the shortest way into a FedEx Mainline aircraft. That’s what we’ve been told by management on April the second.

...oh " by management" huh, that must be true than. Hard not to be sarcastic, but c'mon bud, give yourself some credit, I don't believe you're that gullible..

BigC208
04-13-2018, 08:57 PM
...oh " by management" huh, that must be true than. Hard not to be sarcastic, but c'mon bud, give yourself some credit, I don't believe you're that gullible..

Yeah, I guess I was not sarcastic enough. Maybe I should’ve added a “don’t drink the cool-aid” remark.

It’s not all gloom and doom though. If you can do DEC in the ATR and be based with an aircraft, life is good. Home every day. Three weeks on, one week off. Fly 2 hours per night and spend 8 hours in a hotel. Weekends home. There’s hardly any attrition among those guys.

aajones5
04-15-2018, 03:14 PM
Nothing wrong with the example by itself - but you do have to replace "realistic" with "extremely optimistic 5-7 years"
C'mon Don't lie to the kids! it is an airline industry he is interested in afterall..
You forgot to through in a furlough or two, with years of non-flying and than years of trying to get back to flying..

So...honestly 12-20 years would be more on the "realistic" side.
I do appreciate hearing realistic numbers, this is a career that I'm 100% sure that I want to get into so I'm willing to accept all the bad for the good.

No Land 3
04-15-2018, 06:42 PM
I do appreciate hearing realistic numbers, this is a career that I'm 100% sure that I want to get into so I'm willing to accept all the bad for the good.

The key to this career field is to simply not step onto any land mines, and the playing field is loaded with them.
These land mines are disguised as failed check rides, upsetting the wrong people, vindictive employers that abuse PRIA, FAA LOI’s, a simple lapse in good judgement, etc. Keep a low profile, try really hard to not fail any check rides, avoid working for crappy outfits(incredibly hard to do just starting out), always be a professional, and most importantly, don’t backstab your fellow pilot. Small industry, people remember, and very often will be on the other side of the fence when you are trying to get in somewhere.

PA31
04-15-2018, 08:34 PM
Hey everyone, so I've got my commercial ticket approx. 370TT 280PIC almost done with multi and CFI and a year away from a 4 year degree. My goal is really just to get to one of these two companies as fast as possible and so far it seems like my best option would be to go Ameriflight once i get the hours, but I'm willing to take any path that will get me to my goal the fastest. For people working at UPS of FedEx, what were the paths y'all took and how long did it take you to get there?
I'd appreciate any advice y'all can give me.
It took me 18 years from zero hours total time to FedEx new hire. Results may vary but I was young for my new-hire class.

whalesurfer
04-15-2018, 08:43 PM
Don’t use y’all.:D


One company is based in Memphis, TN, the other in Louisville, KY.
I’d say “y’all” should work for him/her just fine. As it should.. ;-)

CaptainDooley
04-16-2018, 10:20 AM
-finish your degree
-next goal is to get ATP as soon as possible, in the current hiring environment a lot of doors will open after that.
- I flew at Compass and there were a lot of pilots hired that just got their ATPs, same at other regionals.
-depending on which regional you go to, you could upgrade in 2-3 years or less. many things affect upgrade time so don't pick a company just because today they have the quickest upgrade.
best thing is to pick one that has a base close to where you live.
trust me, your life will be much happier.
-as soon as you are able, jumpseat on one of the cargo guys, the type of flying is not for everyone, don't go to a cargo airline just because they have a good pay scale.

vano
04-17-2018, 08:58 PM
do you guys have anybody with heavy type rating and international experience but less than 1000 PIC?

CaptainDan
04-16-2019, 01:41 PM
He can join Mountain Air Cargo or Empire and join the Purple Runway (google it) program! That’s the shortest way into a FedEx Mainline aircraft. That’s what we’ve been told by management on April the second.


Are you a FedEx pilot? I’d like to hear more about the Purple Runway program !

Hellafo
04-17-2019, 02:27 AM
-finish your degree.
-finish your degree.
-finish your degree.
I made that mistake and now I wish I finished it earlier.

CaptainDan
04-19-2019, 07:01 PM
It took me 18 years from zero hours total time to FedEx new hire. Results may vary but I was young for my new-hire class.

Maybe you can help provide some guidance for us FedEx-hopefuls...

Is Mountain Air Cargo (MAC) or Empire Airlines the best route to FedEx?
-or-
Would a regional job be the better option?

Ultimately, whichever is going to provide you with 1000 TPIC, so in an industry where seniority is everything a 1 or 2 year difference between start dates means missing out on a substantial chunk of change...

If you were in our shoes today (single, no kids, willing to relocate) which route would you personally take?

All feedback is helpful! Thanks in advance



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